Me and my husband were in queue for a Scarlet S35. Both are artists, and still photographers too. With the recent announcement of a price increase, it seems hard to believe the new camera may bring a valid option. Why not a Red camera for DSMC but same price range of Nikon D3x or Canon 1D Mark4?
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And now about DSMC? No competitor for Nikon D3X or Canon 1D Mark 4 ?
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Because RED announced that they would only be a professional camera manufacturer from now on. Prices similar to that of the VDSLRs mean compromises in some areas and that is not what the professional market stands for.
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Michael Totten
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You're right, they are both professional stills cameras, but not considered by most to be professional motion cameras.
Apples and Oranges.
Also - the D3X doesn't even shoot motion.
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Jason Sinclair
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Search Scarlet. It is your perfect camera.
Shane Betts
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If you only want to shoot stills, the Nikon and Canon are fantastic. If you need to shoot both stills and motion, Scarlet and Epic are unmatched. Matter of fact, if you only want to shoot motion, Epic is unmatched.
Very comparable... on price that is!
Very comparable... on price that is!
Hey Nicole,
I think the Scarlet S35 (now Epic Light) was priced at $7,000 for the body before the addition of HDR capability which added about $1,000. which puts it .05¢ more expensive than the $7,999.95 list price of the Nikon D3x. The Canon EOS-1Ds is a good deal cheaper than both the Scarlet and the Nikon at $6,999 but I would definitely but them in the same ballpark if not the same seating section. So if you were merely looking at price they are in the same ballpark.
You would have to lay out the specs to see if you want to pay the extra for a few megapixels here or there or if an additional 60+ frames per second (burst mode) makes sense for you. The way I see it you get sooo much more with an Epic Light that it isn't even close. Just being able to use Nikon or Canon or RED or PL mount lenses is unheard of from DSLR bodies. With all due respect to filmmakers who are creating fantastic moving images with DSLR's but I don't think I am saying anything controversial when I say that motion is not in the same league as RED.
Check out this thread it shows some of the info on the Scarlet/Epic Light and even an interesting picture with a Scarlet next to a Nikon body.
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38274
Very comparable... on price that is!
Hey Nicole,
I think the Scarlet S35 (now Epic Light) was priced at $7,000 for the body before the addition of HDR capability which added about $1,000. which puts it .05¢ more expensive than the $7,999.95 list price of the Nikon D3x. The Canon EOS-1Ds is a good deal cheaper than both the Scarlet and the Nikon at $6,999 but I would definitely but them in the same ballpark if not the same seating section. So if you were merely looking at price they are in the same ballpark.
You would have to lay out the specs to see if you want to pay the extra for a few megapixels here or there or if an additional 60+ frames per second (burst mode) makes sense for you. The way I see it you get sooo much more with an Epic Light that it isn't even close. Just being able to use Nikon or Canon or RED or PL mount lenses is unheard of from DSLR bodies. With all due respect to filmmakers who are creating fantastic moving images with DSLR's but I don't think I am saying anything controversial when I say that motion is not in the same league as RED.
Check out this thread it shows some of the info on the Scarlet/Epic Light and even an interesting picture with a Scarlet next to a Nikon body.
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38274
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Ralph, great points. I think we forget how expensive the top of the line vDSLR's actually are.
Jim Retar
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If you are interest in RED mainly from a still image point of view.... it is dependent on what type of shooting you do... for instance, if you are a landscape artist, the benefits of high fps seem lost.
Sports could be very good, but AE and AF need to be tested before anyone (except maybe the RED team) can say this, for sure.
Studio work seems to be where the Epic would really shine... catching that perfect frame at 120fps should be a breeze. I wonder if s35 sensor is enough though? Maybe worth waiting for the medium format Epic?
If you want still and video though.... Epic Light should be well worth the extra money.
Sports could be very good, but AE and AF need to be tested before anyone (except maybe the RED team) can say this, for sure.
Studio work seems to be where the Epic would really shine... catching that perfect frame at 120fps should be a breeze. I wonder if s35 sensor is enough though? Maybe worth waiting for the medium format Epic?
If you want still and video though.... Epic Light should be well worth the extra money.
Carlos Echenique
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I'm a lurking stills guy. I shoot ballet professionally and am hoping that EPIC will allow me to video the dance and pull stills from it. Also hoping that EPIC will be quieter than my D700 as I have been banned from some venues for excessive camera noise.
Jason Sinclair
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Here is some hand held Redone experimental work i did with the school of orkestics in Budapest last year.
http://vimeo.com/7201301
Epic will be the perfect camera.
Carlos Echenique
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That looked very impressive for a REDONE which doesn't have anywhere near the DR of the EPIC. I can only assume that the artifacting I saw in the dark areas was due to Vimeo's compression algorithms. Could you pull some still frames from that and post them?
Jason Sinclair
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Let me know where you are and if i can cross paths and you can get me to video a dance gig with a good company i will let you test the Epic and other goodies for dance.
