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Anamorphic Mode?

Jason Honeycutt

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I've been looking around for an answer to this, to no avail, but has the Anamorphic Mode ever worked its way onto the Scarlet in the recent firmware updates...? (I haven't updated in a little while.)
 
Yes, we have anamorphic support now...

...but only for 5k resolution, no 4k ana, like it is with EPIC.

;)
 
That's good, right...? I need to update my firmware anyway. I'm deciding on bumping up to Scarlet-Dragon or Epic for the anamorphic support more than anything but if I could get decent ANA on Scarlet, then I might just stay home and get the better DR. But, as it is, I really love the Scarlet.
 
Jason Honeycutt said:
That's good, right...?
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In general, yes, we have the same ana-mode that EPIC has, but as Daniel said, 5k is still limited to 12fps.

I need to update my firmware anyway. I'm deciding on bumping up to Scarlet-Dragon or Epic for the anamorphic support more than anything but if I could get decent ANA on Scarlet, then I might just stay home and get the better DR. But, as it is, I really love the Scarlet.
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Scarlet Dragon will have ana support and we will be able to shoot motion with it.

BTW, you can still shoot anamorphic, even without the firmware supporting it. Get a monitor that can desqueez by itself and you are ready to shoot, everything else can be done in post. So 4k ANA on Scarlet is possible.
 
Maik Müller said:
BTW, you can still shoot anamorphic, even without the firmware supporting it. Get a monitor that can desqueez by itself and you are ready to shoot, everything else can be done in post. So 4k ANA on Scarlet is possible.
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The anamorphic mode on Epic crops the sensor some width ways though doesn't it? So if you're shooting anamorphic on Scarlet, you desqueeze an already 16:9 aspect ratio, so you'd need to a chunk of cropping on the left and right because shooting 2X anamorphic on Scarlet's 16:9 sensor will result in a 32:9 aspect ratio?
 
What about shooting 5K anamorphic through to an external recorder with look-around enabled - ie to a ninja as some people have experimented to utilise the 5K sensor on the Scarlet. So if the Ninja/Samurai or Odyssey allowed desqueeze in view, while recording the 5K signal with look-around, would this in fact allow for a 1080p recording of anamorphic on Scarlet?

I don't have a monitor that allows desqueeze, or an external recorder, but for anybody wanting to shoot anamorphic on Scarlet for a 1080p deliverable might work...
 
You are right about the monitor, you would need to crop to get the final look. But thats all just for previewing and framing. You could use the framing-guides in-camera to vsualize the final crop and use the uncropped, but desqueezed, frame on your monitor to have some "look-around" at the left and right side. Hey this is even better than shooting cropped, because you have some reframing-options. ;)

About the 5k/look-around/external-recorder thing, nope doesn't work. You can't activate anamorphic on Scarlet without going to 5k, and 5k is limited to 12fps, even for just the preview.

Of course, you can go 4k, enable look-around, put on a LCD with desqueezing and a external recorder and then manually desqueeze/crop in post. That would give you 1080p anamorphic with a wider fov.
 
To dsequeeze in adobe you use wide effect.howvabout export to 4k ana
 
Question, since there's no ANA mode for 4K on the Scarlet, what does it mean practically? If you shoot for example let's say with the Hawk V-Lite 1.3 X on it, what will it do? You just need a monitor that is able to desqueeze the image but otherwise, you'll effectively be shooting anamorphic, right?
 
Hawk 1.3x would be perfect, since they were designed for ~16:9 sensors.... Just shoot at 3840x2160 (4k HD) and then desqueeze in RCX before render (or desqueeze in the NLE) to end up with a 2.4:1 image.

As for 2x anamorphics, it means you'll be desqueezing to ~3.55:1 and then also cropping the sides to bring it back to 2.4:1 aspect ratio (again, in RCX>render out OR in the NLE).
 
4k Ana on scarlet, come on red isn't it simple? Sorry but that way too cheap. Never heard of anyone using your 1k stuff at least provide something useful. 5k Ana @12fps sounds like (ha ha ha ha f*** you scarlet users go and buy epic) ok I don't want 5k give me 4k Ana at 24. What a marketing strategy.
 
Just shoot 5k ana to an ext recorder.

Its not a huge resolution loss over 4k ana (which when cropped and debayerd gets you somewhere around 2.6 or 2.7k)
 
tahamirza said:
4k Ana on scarlet, come on red isn't it simple? Sorry but that way too cheap. Never heard of anyone using your 1k stuff at least provide something useful. 5k Ana @12fps sounds like (ha ha ha ha f*** you scarlet users go and buy epic) ok I don't want 5k give me 4k Ana at 24. What a marketing strategy.
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5k is excellent for timelapses.
 
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