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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

ALERT! Please read.

Wade Cordts said:
All I can say is this...

If I dropped over $60k on a camera...
I'd also have a very nice home security system.

Guys, i suggest to anybody else that has one, that you take measures to protect it. SOmetimes, it can be a crappy world we live in.
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That's fine if you only shoot in your house. I've a $6k camera system and I have a home security system. However, the problem is when you are on the road, or in another country. You can't bring your house with you.

But, it's beyond that. The camera is really the least of the concerns in this situation, it's a break in when people are present. If someone had woken up or scared them, this situation could have escalated. That's the issue.
 
Jannard said:
The unthinkable has just happened. Mark's chalet was broken into while they were sleeping and EPIC 0006 was stolen along with cash. Mark is at the Police Station right now in Meribel, France.

The family is safe and no one was hurt.

This is a tight community. We need your help. Keep your eyes and ears open for any news, tips or details about an EPIC floating around. An EPIC is a hard thing to circulate since there is only one in the world.

Please contact anyone at RED if you hear of anything.

Of course Mark is heartbroken. So are we.

Jim
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Change the firmware so it will deactivate the camera and make it useless. Something to do with REDCODE files? Make is useless to them!
 
Rick Burnett said:
That's fine if you only shoot in your house. I've a $6k camera system and I have a home security system. However, the problem is when you are on the road, or in another country. You can't bring your house with you.

But, it's beyond that. The camera is really the least of the concerns in this situation, it's a break in when people are present. If someone had woken up or scared them, this situation could have escalated. That's the issue.
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Can the camera have an inbuilt GPS chip that can locate the camera anywhere in the world when switched on? Something like a TRACKER unit?
 
Neil B Smith said:
Change the firmware so it will deactivate the camera and make it useless. Something to do with REDCODE files? Make is useless to them!
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So that anybody who want to sabotage a production could hack or brute-force the code? Or a bug could cause a camera on an expedition to a remote area to freeze?

Such devices always work much better in film plots than in real life. It is plenty good enough that everything shot with the camera can be identified.
 
Bjørn Vermo said:
So that anybody who want to sabotage a production could hack or brute-force the code? Or a bug could cause a camera on an expedition to a remote area to freeze?
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Or hundreds of hours of footage shot on that camera could be no longer usable in new software because someone stole it? And what keeps anyone with a hex editor from replacing all the camera ID / pin info in R3D files so it looks like it comes from a legit camera anyway? Anyone who's savvy enough to make use of a stolen camera like this is going to be able to circumvent such restrictions.

As for GPS, let's put it this way, GPS is a receive-only technology. So you need some form of transmitter embedded in the device, 3G would be the most logical. It's globally available and doesn't require a SIM card and also allows for free location broadcasts among other things. This is why e-reader devices like Kindle use 3G and it's free for most things. But range and coverage are more limited than GSM or CDMA. Even with 3G built-in, then what? If someone powers up the camera and hasn't tampered with the location system, it can broadcast its location. Who handles the broadcast? Do camera owners need to subscribe to a service that tracks and monitors for these broadcasts? Is RED going to offer that service? At what cost?

If you can't tell, I'm not wild about either of these solutions...
 
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I'm sure this and many other ideas have been on the cards at RED for years but... is it possible for a firmware update to ask the camera which serial number it is and then stop it working if the serial number is registered stolen?

I agree that the value to Jim, Mark and the whole RED team far out weighs both our collective adoration of these products and whether or not cameras are protected in future.
 
Justin Batchelor said:
GPS tracking. Please. Not as a novelty, but for security. I'd call it Epic Discovery.
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Reminds me of a guy who drove down the same road each day and the neighbor's dog chased the car each time it passed the neighbor's house. One day the driver stopped his car, rolled down the window and looking straight at the bewildered dog asked "O.K. Now you've caught it. What are you going to do with it?"

So, once you've located your camera, probably in some foreign country, Who's going to go get it back?
 
Elsie N said:
So, once you've located your camera, probably in some foreign country, Who's going to go get it back?
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Not to make light of this very serious situation, but laughter is the best medicine as they say.

The answer is so easy. Dude. Spider-Man. In 3D. Duh.

Furthering laughter as Robitussin; if the Epics were running OSX and connected to the interwebs you could do what this guy did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4oB28ksiIo
 
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Joseph Hutson said:
I'm sure many of us would invest a fair amount of money to go and try and find the stolen EPIC if we knew the GPS coordinates...
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So, you're a gambler, eh?

How much would someone charge for this kind of work? And what if the camera was re-sold to a legitimate buyer and your mercenary recovered it in a dangerous manner? Could you be held somehow responsible?

Much better to just get insurance and let them worry about any recovery. Unless you are attached to that one piece of hardware. In that case, offer a reward and be absolved of any liability.

EDIT: Anyone ever heard of an expensive car being recovered after being stolen. I'm sure it has happened, but probably not often. Keep your valuables close, or covered.
 
At the end of the day a piece of technology holds no flame to human life. Mark it is great to hear that no one was harmed. After being robbed a few times at gun point while living in Mexico City it's just not cool. If it had happened to me I wouldn't care at all about the camera, but if someone had threatened my family, I would hunt them down like dogs.

According to the world health organization 1 person is murdered every 60 seconds.
 
Elsie N said:
So, you're a gambler, eh?

How much would someone charge for this kind of work? And what if the camera was re-sold to a legitimate buyer and your mercenary recovered it in a dangerous manner? Could you be held somehow responsible?

Much better to just get insurance and let them worry about any recovery. Unless you are attached to that one piece of hardware. In that case, offer a reward and be absolved of any liability.

EDIT: Anyone ever heard of an expensive car being recovered after being stolen. I'm sure it has happened, but probably not often. Keep your valuables close, or covered.
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My macbook pro was stolen twice by two different people. Once from the airport, and once from my house.

I recovered it both times. :)
 
Being that the EPIC is a modular system... why not design a gps tracking module that would lock onto the camera between the battery pack and camera. Then the users who would want to subscribe to RED's tracking service could do so for a monthly fee + the cost of the module.
 
Wade Cordts said:
Being that the EPIC is a modular system... why not design a gps tracking module that would lock onto the camera between the battery pack and camera. Then the users who would want to subscribe to RED's tracking service could do so for a monthly fee + the cost of the module.
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could this be integrated into the $300 module adapter to hide it a bit? that might be nice for all configurations except the just the run and gun brain only method.
 
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