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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Advice...

androbot2084 said:
The fact of the matter is that you will never make it on a major Hollywood production if you show up on the set with a Panasonic HVX200.
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unfortunatly.. just owning a red one will not get you on a major hollywood production:/

Jim is 100% right on being carefull...
however, its always a good idea to invest in your business..if your currently doing it professionally :)
 
And in 1930 releasing a movie with sound some scenes shot in color and with a lot stunts was no guarantee of sucess. Mr. Mayer of MGM told the 21 year old Howard Hughes who he probably considered a whipper snapper that he would never suceed outside of the major studio system because no one would watch his movie and no one would distribute it.

I am sure MGM boasts of its movie 2001 a Space Odysee but Howard Hughes boasts that his real surveyor spacecraft accomplished the first soft landing on the Moon.
 
I am not saying that the purchase of a Red will automatically create income and it would indeed be foolish to make a substantial investment and have it create dust. But what I am saying is that if one sees an opportunity are we going to let fear guide our business decisions?

I imagine that the worst case scenerio if I cannot get any gigs with a Red camera is that I could always do wedding videos. Of course using a Red is overkill for wedding applications however I will be learning how to use truely professional tools and I am sure the business although costly would be sustainable if one were really serious.
 
If doing a wedding is going to net you a grand on a saturday afternoon and evening while you eat well and enjoy the music I don't see anything wrong about doing it with your Red. Anything that brings you money towards recouping your investment is decent work. Unless you are extremely well connected, Hollywood may take a little longer.
 
androbot2084 said:
Of course using a Red is overkill for wedding applications however I will be learning how to use truely professional tools and I am sure the business although costly would be sustainable if one were really serious.
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You can look at it another way. Weddings are a battleground. They're like a war simulator jacked up to level 10. If you can shoot a wedding with Red at 4K, 23.98 with 35mm fast lenses and manage to follow the action, keeping everything exposed properly, focus tight, etc. you will feel very comfortable shooting with Red in a lot of other situations. Now, knowing how to light interviews, dramatic scenes, etc is certainly that other half of the equation to really being a great DP, but don't discount weddings too much as a good place to train with the camera, get some great footage, and make some money to pay it back. I'm open to any opportunity to shoot with this camera and make some money doing it.

Now, having said all that, shooting with two or three EX-1s would probably be my first choice for doing a traditional wedding video because you'll have the coverage, and a lighter camera to move around with. And it will still look really good. But the challenge of shooting with Red and then the results you can get from it make it more fun - I think.:unsure:
 
Jannard said:
I am not your father.
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Lu-cas...you-are-my-fa-ther...

oh-and-dad...can-i-bor-row-the-keys-to-the-ep-ic...i-have-a-date-to-nite-with-pair-is....

ed-it...Par-is
 
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the world is in trouble. We should all take a very close look at how we move forward.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the world is in trouble. We should all take a very close look at how we move forward.
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So this explains the logic behind Red Ranch... you're building a compound out there in the desert aren't you? Will it come complete with bomb shelters, munitions storage, and tin foil hats? You should totally serve everyone kool-aid as they enter.
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Mercury monterey history
 
Ethan Cooper said:
So this explains the logic behind Red Ranch... you're building a compound out there in the desert aren't you? Will it come complete with bomb shelters, munitions storage, and tin foil hats? You should totally serve everyone kool-aid as they enter.
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My personal thinking is that Jim is looking PAST the coming troubles and looking at what things will look like afterwards. He probably IS building said compound, but for the purpose of keeping out the industrial espionage that will be directed his way to steal his secret formula (for being successful in both good times and bad).

Or maybe he always wanted a fort when he was a kid and now he can afford one. Who knows, other than he and his analysts?:holloween:

afterthought: Orrrrrrrrrrrrh?! Maybe he bought fort Knox and is moving it to Vegas!

new afterthought: I'VE GOT IT!!! JIM'S SOLVED THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING! That is, he is building Red Ranch as the place where all the great directors, editors, producers etc. come together. They will go to work in a great control room each day and will be surrounded by video screens that show shots coming in from the cameras on the movie set of the picture they are working on at the time. Their asst director, cinematographer etc. will be on the set and the director will watch as a scene is being shot in real time, just like a tv director does. Only this real time may be coming from half-way 'round the world. Then while the next shot is being set up, the director will watch a scene he has dictated, being shot from another part of the world. He or she makes the decision to go with what they have or reshoot.

This is effect means that movies can be rapidly churned out much like they were during the great depression and will make us laugh or cry or just empathize our way out of the darn thing.
 
Not forgetting reduser.net & the RED digital cinema project, for sure... :-)
 
Then maybe we should rally behind the Scarlet. Hollywood productions can always use a more compact camera that produces good quality footage. And the debt burden with the Scarlet is such that it probably won't break you if you are laid off between jobs.
 
rebusfilm said:
Cloverfield? :clown2:
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Cloverfield was mostly shot with the Viper and F23/Genesis. But yeah, the HVX200 was used a lot too, but at a lesser degree than the other two. HVX has found its way into other hollywood productions, just as other "prosumer" cameras like the XL-1 have. Different cameras for different jobs and in this case the HVX seems to have worked well. I personally didn't care for Cloverfield and I'm not sure what all the buzz was about. But that has nothing to do with the cameras... I thought the movie looked fine, in fact I saw some of the Blu-Ray playing on a 60" 1080p plasma a week or so back, it looked really good.
 
androbot2084 said:
Then maybe we should rally behind the Scarlet. Hollywood productions can always use a more compact camera that produces good quality footage. And the debt burden with the Scarlet is such that it probably won't break you if you are laid off between jobs.
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Scarlet is going to seriously rock. I love my RED 0ne and I'm very interested in upgrading to EPIC. But I'm betting that Scarlet may actually become my primary, every day camera for all things personal and pro. There are so many times I'm setting up the RED and think to myself how one particular setup or even a complete job would be better with something like Scarlet.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Scarlet is going to seriously rock. I love my RED 0ne and I'm very interested in upgrading to EPIC. But I'm betting that Scarlet may actually become my primary, every day camera for all things personal and pro. There are so many times I'm setting up the RED and think to myself how one particular setup or even a complete job would be better with something like Scarlet.
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I think you've nailed it. I also think every production will have Scarlets shooting "behind the scenes" footage for DVD xtra footage.
 
One thing I don't like about behind the scenes footage is that the main footage on Blu-Ray is in 1080p but the behind the scenes footage is shot in crummy 480i which looks horrible on my flat panel television. With Scarlet we can create behind the scenes video footage which can easily be downsampled to 1080p at 60 frames per second.
 
I think the recession might actually go in RED's favour. studios are struggling to get financing for their films and any way to bring down costs will be applied. RED is an excellent way of doing that. it may not sound like much but if you put out 20 films a year and can save 2m in film stock and processing per picture thats nothing to sniff at
 
I'm the guy Jim's talking to. Most of you are pros and offer more advice than you ask for. I'm a carpenter, an artist, a motorcycle racer, a dreamer. And I've got an email in my box telling me my RED is ready to ship. Jim is talking to me.

Thank you Jim.

I learned a long time ago, it's not magnesium wheels or carbon fiber fenders that earn you wins, so don't waste money on toys. However you can't win races using only your heart, so you choose your line as wise as you can.

Mine is likely to be drawn, still, on the far side of a RED. Only I'll draw it more confidently, rather than less, because of this thread.

Thanks for the advice guys.
 
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