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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Adobe support...

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After effects was named like that cause it is dealing with a lot of effects
IT supports a hundreds of effecs with different brands and names .
Is this plug in which is planed to release next week .will it be capable to
Handle R3d files (with multieffects)applied to it ..?
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Sorry to branch off on a tangent, but is there any good source for Premiere CS3 tutorials online? It's looking like I might need to brush up a bit, I don't ever edit with Premiere and I'd prefer to build on my rudimentary foundation and avoid the keyboard shortcuts that mimic FCP. I guess there's a tutorial DVD that comes with CS3, could check that out. Heh.
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Adobe's own site is pretty good for brush-up tutorials for just about any Adobe product.

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/

Any word yet on how/if this will effect Cineform users?
 
Lynda.com has a ton of tutorials for Adobe products, including Premiere. The paid tutorials really are worth the price of admission, with them, you can master the program in a couple of weeks I'd say. Lots of things there that took me years to figure out and it's all there for the taking. Also, Richard Harrington's site www.photoshopforvideo.com has lots of good stuff on how to really make the best of Photoshop and Premiere's integration. He sells a book with tons of examples that is worth the effort for anybody that wants to use Photoshop for video projects.
 
I am not sure you would need cineform if it's a native adobe support, maybe for the HDSDI output though...and your VFX pipe could use cineform if it would play with the native support for r3d on the same timeline, and as a archive format..?

depends on lots of things, but I could see still using Cineform for lots of things, maybe less RED centric then it could/should/would have been. ? they have a fast engine. I am a bit afraid of Red support knowing how many years it took cineform to "get it just right" for editing ONLINE HD and beyond.

My hope is the IMPORT EDIT and EXPORT work well, and at the bitdepths that are needed for deep pixel support and no loss of quality from edit - finish. If RedCine is really good at one thing it's knowing how to deal with colors in a VERY professional way, even with the limited toolset it has, I would expect and accept nothing less of an Adobe RAW-RED workflow.
 
obin said:
I am not sure you would need cineform if it's a native adobe support, maybe for the HDSDI output though...and your VFX pipe could use cineform if it would play with the native support for r3d on the same timeline, and as a archive format..?
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Well, when Cineform releases their .r3d engine, if it performs faster and more stable than the native adobe version with virtually no quality loss, then we will have a decision to make. "Native" is almost always better, but not really in some cases, as Cineform has proven to be the case. Speed and stability are key as long as perceived quality does not suffer.
 
Rudi Herbert said:
Well, when Cineform releases their .r3d engine, if it performs faster and more stable than the native adobe version with virtually no quality loss, then we will have a decision to make. "Native" is almost always better, but not really in some cases, as Cineform has proven to be the case. Speed and stability are key as long as perceived quality does not suffer.
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Except that Prospect 4k is 2000 dollars per copy. You could buy another copy of the Master collection for that much.
 
Prospect comes with hardware, well worth the price.

at this very moment I am cutting 1080p with HDSDI to a plasma, off the timeline, footage is on a SAN with consumer drives, and a consumer gigabit network. Can't beat it.

What I am doing(and do every day of the week) used to cost upwards of $60,000

The Camera is a bargain, post is a bargain, it's all about the workflow now and maintaining quality from capture to final master. As in photography, desktop publishing, and music, cost is not going to be the issue in the near future, artist, workflow, and finished quality will be.
 
Great news. Also concerning NLE competition. :weight_lift:

Apple, wake up from your slumber! :whistling:
 
native support in Adobe is nice! I am so excited!!!
But Cineform still has its uses....it allows you to run those high quality avi on very cheap hardware. You don't need a high end RAID array for cineform files...You can easily edit 1080P cineform projects on a laptop with amazing performance and still keep 4:4:4 color space....
 
this adobe thing is freggin awesome. my main requirements are to support the kelvin change.. the temperature. and finessed export codecs. red cine is kick ass when it comes to that stuff. which is why i like crimson. because it allows me to finally edit the r3d files and adjust curves and correct color temperature.
 
karapetkov said:
It appears that the support is limited to 8-bit color per channel. :mellow:

But that's fine, cause you can re-link with 16 bit TIFFs from RedCine.
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i wouldn't mind editing in 8 bit on premiere, so as long as the grading is done when the footage is imported via a r3d raw viewer/tweaker(which is 10.. dunno 12 bit).. like a redcine within premiere. you adjust ure footage and then select okay. and edit. and in the end when you want to do second grades or better.. you could sendto AE. where you can edit the r3d raw file in say color finesse in 32bit and then render the entire sequence out from after effects. you can do it in dpx.. cineon.. and whichever shit you want. and the beauty of it is.. is that if you export to avi or mov.. the audio is still there from premiere.

Ah... i just f&^cking love adobe.

edit. Rob said.. 8 bit or 32 bit. pick ure poison.
 
big lebowski said:
Great news. Also concerning NLE competition. :weight_lift:

Apple, wake up from your slumber! :whistling:
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don't think a random shout on a message board is going to get to the Apple people you need to shout out. just an fyi.....:)
 
Hey Rob, what is the idea on how your dealing with feeding Adobe apps 4k raw footage?
 
hey Obin, I'm curious about your workflow. you use a SAN with gigabit? and that plugs into you ethernet port? So it's a network with just itself and the SAN?
 
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