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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Adobe plugin update

i did bet 50 € with a friend that this update will not come until the end of the week.

sadly enough i have won.

I`ll bet the SDK for RAW debayering will not come in the next 4 months.
 
Cüneyt Kaya said:
i did bet 50 € with a friend that this update will not come until the end of the week.

sadly enough i have won.

I`ll bet the SDK for RAW debayering will not come in the next 4 months.
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Kaya please, stop betting. Join gamblers anonymous. (you didnt bet on the audio enabling build or the audio board program, hu?)
 
Paolo Tinari said:
Kaya please, stop betting. Join gamblers anonymous. (you didnt bet on the audio enabling build or the audio board program, hu?)
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i have some more 50 € bets.
1)i will earn more on post then on my red again in the next 3 months.
2)rental fees will go down (in germany) to 200 € per day without lens in the next 2 months---seems to happen on december 1st.---(its not me)
3) ac milan will be the italian champion
 
salemas said:
Sorry. I appreciate Adobe plugin team work, but I'm just disappointed .
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C.K. said:
I feel like you could have told us that earlier... Why couln't you do so?...but I'm just really disapointed. I come and check this thead everyday, hoping for good news...
Plus, I had made big plans for the following weeks, using this magical plugin... What am I gonna do??? :sad:
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Pete said:
wow. hearing this on the 20th.
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salemas said:
ohhh, not again:waaa:
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Cüneyt Kaya said:
i did bet 50 € with a friend that this update will not come until the end of the week. sadly enough i have won. I`ll bet the SDK for RAW debayering will not come in the next 4 months.
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david farland said:
People make 'loose' plans/purchases based on it and it can affect them quite badly. One example, we go out and make CS3 product purchases based on this information and now must purchase CS4. This mis-information only fuels fires/problems. Sorry to put it like this but the pattern hasn't changed.
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Deanan from RED, and Simon Hayhurst from Adobe are both contributing here and trying to give you guys as much information as possible. If you don't know who Simon is, look him up... he is one of the very senior people on the CS team within Adobe.

Software is just that - soft. The RED guys and the Adobe team are working their asses off to get this out. I've witnessed first-hand this week in Japan exactly how hard the Adobe team is working. Release dates slip. It's the nature of the beast with technology. It happens to big and small companies.

With this kind of negativity, I'm really surprised that Deanan posts anything.

Lucas
 
luki said:
Deanan from RED, and Simon Hayhurst from Adobe are both contributing here and trying to give you guys as much information as possible. If you don't know who Simon is, look him up... he is one of the very senior people on the CS team within Adobe.

Software is just that - soft. The RED guys and the Adobe team are working their asses off to get this out. I've witnessed first-hand this week in Japan exactly how hard the Adobe team is working. Release dates slip. It's the nature of the beast with technology. It happens to big and small companies.

With this kind of negativity, I'm really surprised that Deanan posts anything.

Lucas
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sorry to deanan...i will donate him the 50 €...the fcp plug in is out there right now...

deanan give me your paypal account..i am serious...hehe
 
Gimmi a break. This plug-in has been delayed from 'hard release' dates at least three times. There's a reason to be upset, even if knowing RED's always late, when the release date goes from two months ago ('by the end of the week') to Nov. 13th to fer-sure the 20th then on the 20th it's delayed a few more weeks.

Sometime during the week, didn't you guys think, 'hey we might need to delay this a few more weeks' maybe we should tell someone?

I do think a lot of it is because of Adobe's duct tape-style fixes and and that since partnered RED isn't gonna blame Adobe.
 
karapetkov said:
So, the Adobe plugin kinda makes Cineform obsolete? :bleh:
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We don't expect so. We believe there will be an excellent co-existance, CineForm is the best render to codec on both Mac and PC platforms, something that REDCODE doesn't have. So for native REDCODE Adobe users we expect to sell a lot of NEO 4K licenses. Also for online work, and HDSDI finishing, only CineForm is real-time with Prospect HD/4K, as the CineForm decoder at 1080p / 2K is multi-stream real-time over HDSDI. For any class of PC, the CineForm solution will decode an average of 4+ times pixel count than the equivalent REDCODE. So a CineForm installation lowers the cost of your new PC -- related check out the speed of the Core-i7 (http://cineform.blogspot.com/2008/11/intel-core-i7-and-cineform.html.) None of the even considers the advantages we have mixing multiple camera sources and using CineForm Active Metadata. We look forward to the release of the Adobe R3D plugin, as it will clearly show how CineForm can help.

We are helping the workflow through choice.
 
luki said:
Software is just that - soft.
With this kind of negativity, I'm really surprised that Deanan posts anything. Lucas
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Lucas,

Please don't give me marketing spin...!

I've run software development teams for 15 years.
I know what it is and what it isn't.
I know what it's like to do 100hr/weeks for months as the developers girlsfriend get increasingly pissed at me.

I also know the way to report to clients.
The team has my utmost respect...as does the customer!

D
 
joshtownsend said:
Damn.......Cineform, has aworking workflow on November 20th and Adobe doesn't. Also the Premiere update says it now supports 3rd part codecs. Does that mean Aspect will now work with cs4?
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Actually we had a working Red/Adobe workflow nearly year ago, but that upset the status quo, but we had official support since the SDK release under CS2 and CS3, and we adding CS4 (we needed to wait for the 4.0.1 release also.) Our "plugins" are more complex than Red's, include many modules for rendering, playback, and Direct I/O card integration, so our CS4 upgrades will not be out until the December timeframe, but in the meantime the older Premiere setups are working.
 
ha ha ha, yeh i gave up waiting a while ago and went with FCP and clipfinder. It is encouraging though that you can import an FCP project. Adobe is very smart.
 
so you can import a .fcp project... if I change bins around and timeline and do some editing can I then export that and see the changes back on a fcp machine? also if the fcp project is all .mov files and I´m on a PC will they play natively or with the red bar?
 
Beta testing request

Beta testing request

Hi Deanan,

As a fellow programmer I appreciate the complexities of developing software. We have completed a shoot using two RED One cameras and have hired an editor starting the coming Monday. We did this assuming that the PPro plugin would be available on the 20th. Admittedly we understand that we'd have some teething problems but we simply can't leave it any later to begin editing (the editor's schedule, etc) and the RED plugin was a major part of that plan. We don't use After Effects, as we use Shake for our compositing.

Would it be possible to join the beta testing team? I've been involved with many beta testing projects in the past including many with Autodesk.

Right now we really need this plugin in, even if it is a little rough around the edges. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

www.davidgould.com
 
dgould said:
Hi Deanan,

As a fellow programmer I appreciate the complexities of developing software. We have completed a shoot using two RED One cameras and have hired an editor starting the coming Monday. We did this assuming that the PPro plugin would be available on the 20th. Admittedly we understand that we'd have some teething problems but we simply can't leave it any later to begin editing (the editor's schedule, etc) and the RED plugin was a major part of that plan. We don't use After Effects, as we use Shake for our compositing.

Would it be possible to join the beta testing team? I've been involved with many beta testing projects in the past including many with Autodesk.

Right now we really need this plugin in, even if it is a little rough around the edges. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

www.davidgould.com
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They had to make the native FCP plug first...Got to meet those behind the door agreements.

I would bet Adobe isnt happy with RED at this time
 
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