Adobe log - edit - footage archive workflow

[brian mcclatchy]

I am working on some rather large natural history projects with over 20TB of original Red Epic footage for each 52 min show. We have started editing the files natively in Premiere Pro CS6 and the actual editing is going quite smoothly on our Mac Pro.

The biggest issue I am coming up against is organizational.
So far i have not found any way in Premiere Pro to view much of the metadata that is already present in the original files viewed in RedCine.

Is there a way to display all the metadata in Premier that is already in Redcine?
Even simple things such as Record Frame Rate, Rating and Redcode compression dont seem to make it into Premiere.
Am I missing something?

The next problem is that when searching for key words in logged footage Premiere only displays the next clip that matches the keyword and not all clip at once. Is there any way to create a bin with all logged clips that have a common keyword in the description for example? This seems like a pretty basic function that is missing and something that is quite easy in Final Cut and Avid. Any ideas?

Ultimately I would like to incorporate all the logging info into some kind of footage archive with functionality similar to Lightroom 4 but that doesn't seem possible at the moment. Any tips on a better system to log R3d footage and use that information in an edit as well as in a footage archive at a later date?

Ideally I would like to have a system that i can use in the field on a Macbook Pro to view and log r3d files that can then be imported into a Premiere Pro project to edit.

thanks for any ideas - Brian

 

[Karl Soule]

Here are a couple of places to get you started...

There is a Metadata panel - go to Window - Metadata to bring it up, and dock it in. This will show metadata for any single clip.

In the Project panel, find the Flyout menu - it's in the upper right of the panel. There's a choice there for Metadata Display. This will let you pick and choose which columns of metadata will show up in the Project panel. You can turn off columns, turn on columns, and even add additional sets of metadata.

The columns in the project panel can be re-ordered by grabbing the column header and moving it left or right.

The search box at the top of the project panel will search all metadata files, or only the visible fields. This should show ALL the clips in the bin that match the search criteria. NOTE: if you type into the search fields, the bin stays filtered to just show those results until you clear the search box.

And, you can have multiple project panels - each one can be search/filtered to different results.

 

[brian mcclatchy]

Hey Karl, thanks for the response
i got that far but was not getting any results as I was using a exclamation mark - ! in the description column as a quick way to highlight and rate clips and searching for "!" was not bringing up any results, is it possible that the search box does not recognize the ! or other symbols?

any other tips on the best way to rate clips beyond the "good" check box?

p.s. and i'm still not getting any of the extra metadata which is visible in Redcine to show up, Record Frame Rate and Rating would be nice to have.
plus there is also a ton of metadata that can be accessed and added optionally in Redcine but none seems to be visible in Premiere?

 

[ckarcher]

Hi Brian,

You may want to look into CAT DV. Database of footage... with Red integration. Not cheap, but very capable as a digital asset management tool.

 

[Karl Soule]

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/broadcast-partner-workflow/catdv-integration-with-adobe-premiere-pro-cs6/

 

[brian mcclatchy]

that looks pretty cool, does it really work that simply with red files too?

 

[Henry Harrison]

CatDV does not currently seem to support r3d files natively. Not sure why not. What they claim to support is the import of quicktime wrapper or proxy files but I have not been able to make it work in the standard demo version.