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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Adobe adds Dragon and Rocket-X support

Wes Howell said:
Paul - hrmm.. I'm going to do a couple clean installs on my end just to verify my sanity as well.
Tomorrow is a much better day (Mondays are lousy) I will get ahold of you.

Paul - I'm not in tech support but I am happy to help my fellow Redusers when I can. My schedule and workload has settled a bit so I hope to spend a bit more time on the forums.

Wes
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Thanks Wes, any help is greatly appreciated. I have an open ticket but haven't heard back from them since last week. I have two systems here. One is a SuperMicro workstation, the other a One Beyond Wrangler portable system. Both with RR's and CC...neither are playing back using the RR card even though Davinci Resolve runs perfectly on both systems.
 
Paul J Steinberg said:
Thanks Wes, any help is greatly appreciated. I have an open ticket but haven't heard back from them since last week. I have two systems here. One is a SuperMicro workstation, the other a One Beyond Wrangler portable system. Both with RR's and CC...neither are playing back using the RR card even though Davinci Resolve runs perfectly on both systems.
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What resolution are you trying to play at?

Cheers

Dave
 
Type: RED R3D Raw File
File Size: 2.0 GB
Image Size: 4800 x 2700
Frame Rate: 23.976
Total Duration: 00:00:37:17
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0


Red R3D Details:


Camera Firmware Version: 4.0.18
Camera Sensor: MYSTERIUM-X S35
Minimum Color Version: 2
Resolution: 4800x2700
FrameRate Num: 24000
FrameRate Den: 1001
Reel ID: 001
Timecode Preference: Absolute
Edge Timecode: 01:07:05:10
Absolute Timecode: 12:34:16:01
Camera ID: A
Clip ID: 013


I tried using a BlackMagic Design HD1080 Progressive 23.976p sequence at full/half res also dragging the clip to the new item icon, creating a new sequence that matched its settings and playback at full/half/quarter res. No dice. Playback takes all 24 cores in the system and pins them at 100%. When Resolve is running the CPU's sit around 20%.
 
Paul J Steinberg said:
Type: RED R3D Raw File
File Size: 2.0 GB
Image Size: 4800 x 2700
Frame Rate: 23.976
Total Duration: 00:00:37:17
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0


Red R3D Details:


Camera Firmware Version: 4.0.18
Camera Sensor: MYSTERIUM-X S35
Minimum Color Version: 2
Resolution: 4800x2700
FrameRate Num: 24000
FrameRate Den: 1001
Reel ID: 001
Timecode Preference: Absolute
Edge Timecode: 01:07:05:10
Absolute Timecode: 12:34:16:01
Camera ID: A
Clip ID: 013


I tried using a BlackMagic Design HD1080 Progressive 23.976p sequence at full/half res also dragging the clip to the new item icon, creating a new sequence that matched its settings and playback at full/half/quarter res. No dice. Playback takes all 24 cores in the system and pins them at 100%. When Resolve is running the CPU's sit around 20%.
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So something is out of sync. Can you manually update your Rocket firmware and tell me what the version is reported by the installer?

thanks
dave
 
Both systems are running firmware 1.1.17.3 on the RR cards and windows driver 1.4.36 for WIn7/64.

I've tried using the Blackmagic 1080p 23.98 sequence settings as well as dragging the clip onto the new item icon. When playing back these clips in RedCine at 1/2 res the CPU sits at about 6%, when playing back in Premiere it is running at 100% across all cores even at 1/2 res on the BM sequence and 1/4 res on the Red sequence.

Turning the RR card on/off in the source setting seems to have no effect.
 
That would be an awesome company!

The person that finally does that, either creates their own awesome company or becomes the King of Adobe, taking Adobe to unprecedented levels.

Before Steve Jobs, was the Apple tech support terrible or Eastern Hemisphere outsourced? I never owned a Mac until Steve was back in the drivers seat. Of course it's not just Steve Jobs, it's the A team he hand pick and assembled for his vision. Seems like Adobe has a few A team caliber guys. It must be poor leadership at the top. They obviously know their tech support is a problem and are doing nothing about it despite some really brilliant people make some really cool creative stuff over there.

Someday soon I'll talk to ones of the heads at Adobe and see what we can improve.

Jon Jones said:
If you tell them their phone support sucks, their not going to be like, "Ok that's it, were bringing phone support back to the Western Hemisphere"! Or, that's it, I'm walking right over to those lab guys and telling them that they better get that Alchemy SDK, or 5kHD working or their fired! That would be totally awesome, if that's what would happen, but I don't think it's going to.
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Thanks Dave. I was able to find a solution from Adobe support in India. They deleted my preference files and when I restarted Premiere, it recreated them, and now, no problem. The support guy thinks my preference files were corrupted somehow.
 
Is it me or it's not possible to access to the Clip properties (ie set the R3D properties) when you use Direct Link in Speedgrade and yoiu import a Premiere project ?

Kristin
 
Kristin Stewart said:
Is it me or it's not possible to access to the Clip properties (ie set the R3D properties) when you use Direct Link in Speedgrade and yoiu import a Premiere project ?

Kristin
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Current workflow is to access the R3D properties in Premiere Pro. (set them there first)
If you'd like different behavior please file a feature request.


Wes Howell
Adobe Systems
 
Wes Howell said:
Current workflow is to access the R3D properties in Premiere Pro. (set them there first)
If you'd like different behavior please file a feature request.


Wes Howell
Adobe Systems
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Wait, what?
Color grading software can't access metadata settings and someone needs to ask for that to change? Isn't that obvious?
It's like someone needed to ask for 10 bit monitoring, because THAT wasn't obvious...
You guys keep giving me reasons to keep ignoring SG...
 
Thanks Well for your answer. It's too bad because when you import direcly a r3d clip you can access to its settings within Speedgrade.

Kristin
 
Jake,

Have you tried the workflow? Lots of potential here and you're always welcome to contribute feedback that will make the functionality and workflow better. (We listen) I've used it extensively and have my list of things that I'd like to see in the next version, but overall I think the simplified workflow that eliminates the need for XML / EDL is extremely useful and powerful.

Re: R3D settings. It is VERY easy to access your RED metadata in Premiere. And honestly, I prefer adjusting R3D's in Premiere vs. SG - there is more functionality there. You can open the project in both apps very quickly and bounce back and forth.

Also, I'd imagine that it would be common to do more of a blanket adjustment before sending it to SG, such as changing the R3D's to Log, etc, right? Again, easier to do this kind of thing in Premiere.

If it's super critical that you have access to each R3D's metadata in SG while using Direct Link then file a feature request. If it's a popular / common request, it will be considered.
You can also use the old school approach sending XML / EDL if you want - this will give you R3D metadata access in SG.


Currently, you can keep your whole filter stack, R3D settings, Warp Stabilizer, transition handles, Motion controls, Masks, Vignettes etc "live" and playable in both Pr and SG. Lots of potential here. The integration between SG and Pr is new…and it will be expanded upon and improved.

All feedback is welcome! I'd highly recommend checking it out and filing feature requests for things that are critical to your workflow.
 
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My AdobeCC suite doesn't seem to recognize the RR-X in slot 2 of my MP tower. IIRC there was a post about a manual toggle somewhere to enable it. Tried searching but no dice.

If anyone knows the dealio or can post a link I'd be much obliged.

Cheers - #19
 
Phil Holland said:
Would it be possible to add "official" support for FFMBC and FFMPEG so we can pump out the various formats they support?

I've been encoding ProRes on the PC for a long time now. I don't really see a reason at this point to be so OS exclusive on this matter anymore.
Thanks.
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The Miraizon QT component does this smoothly.
 
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