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Adobe - A new hope

I am excited and I am hopeful. The future looks very bright. I will, however, be even more excited and more hopeful when we receive confirmation that Adobe, Red and CineForm are talking.
 
Two of the top people at Red just said that they had firm plans with Adobe, they are talking already and have been. I don't know who higher up the chain could make this more concrete? I'd like native support like with DVCProHD, I don't want to have to use cineform to get it to work.
 
it is exciting news. Hopefully it's done in a timely matter though...
 
I'd love to see PC Adobe support with and without Cineform... but I will probably use Cineform.

Of course, hardware acceleration of native .R3D files from Matrox would also be cool.

-Thor
 
you can already convert in redcine to DVCPROHD no? If you're looking to drop redcode onto a timeline in adobe and have it directly convert and play in realtime to DVCPRO then I think you'll be dissapointed. I could be wrong.

The problem with any native implementation of Redcode is that it's an aquistion format only at the moment. Whether that is with Adobe or Apple, it will only ever be a playback format (unltil they develop redcode RGB). You will have to render to another format if you want to use the files in other apps or apply effects on the timeline.

I think the exciting part here is a 4K or 4:4:4 workflow such as cineform in realtime direct in the editor. you can render back to it, or export to AE or whatever with it too without any quality loss to the original 4K file.

But unless the red camera shoots to cineform, it will require a transcode too.
 
I don't see DVCPRO option to output to from REDCINE.
Also it is 4:2:2 and 8 bit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVCPRO#DVCPRO

Despite the "HD" tag, DVCPRO HD is not true high-definition in the current sense. Higher resolutions are downsampled thus:

1280x720 becomes 960x720
1920x1080 becomes 1280x1080 (59.94i)
1920x1080 becomes 1440x1080 (50i)
 
Great News.... possible NAB Announcement???


Just another little"Gift" from Jim & team!!!! Keep it coming guys!!

Dave
 
I'm not wanting r3d files to be converted to dvcprohd, I want native editing. While I'm at asking for that, I'll explain an idea that I think would be really cool and something that I can see adobe doing.

Vector type editing

The way I see this working is that when you create a new project you'd choose your aspect ratio and frame rate, besides that, you would just import your r3d files into the project and start editing. Depending on system performance and on your choice, it would give you the option of editing from .5k to 4k. When you import r3d files it would bring up a redcine/adobe raw import type window and ask what settings you wanted for your clips, it would then save xml files with color info that could be shared with other programs. At the end of your editing, even if you had been using .5k files to preview, you could then set your export resolution when you went to export your final edit. It's not a perfect thought, but I think it would be way sweet if they did something like this or better.
 
Judging on Mr. David Newman silence there is something cooking for NAB.
Lack of information is sometimes, information.
 
If Adobe supported REDCODE, I would buy the entire CS3 master suite. This news makes me so excited, because I am not a very big fan of FCP or REDCINE.
 
With FCP skipping the NAB and the rumours that Apple wants to unwind FCP it just doesn’t sound sexy anymore.

Adobe on the other side is better by the hour. Yes, it lacks the operating precision and the GUI interface needs some polishing but Adobe proved time and time again that it can deliver and deliver on the highest level. After all they are in business of high end image/text/sound/processing. They don’t produce computers or cell phones. Highly focused company that you can rely on.

After all we like to buy the milk from the milkman and shoes from the shoemaker not the other way around.
 
Andrew said:
After all we like to buy the milk from the milkman and shoes from the shoemaker not the other way around.
Click to expand...

Yep, my bets are on Adobe to win over the long haul. Premiere is actually a good app now and they own Photoshop, Flash... Apple owns iPods and iTunes and AppleTV. And they are ca$hing in on those things. Can't blame 'em if they sell their pro apps to Adobe. I mean Adobe and Apple managed to get h.264 into Flash...
 
For adoption into bigger productions there's also a real need for Avid integration. I know that Michael at Avid is working on things related to Metadata and such, so that's good news. Once there's a clearly defined way to push the pictures into Media Composer and Xpress Pro that will open up the way for better adoption in feature and series work I think.

If Avid and Adobe can be brought up to speed, then there should be no stopping RED (Autodesk/discreet and some others will come along too in time I reckon).
 
Apple
Assimilate
Adobe
Avid

AAAA... The A list!
 
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