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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

ABC Crane

Depends what you get. They are light but refer to specs, because if you go on edge of weight scale it will bounce. I have ABC 7.8 meter and it's good only for lightweight cameras. And Red is not in that group for sure. I did shoot only once with Nikon mount, fixed lenses and stripped down camera with round NDs.
 
Aleksandar, thank you very much for sharing your valuable experience.

When you say ABC 7.8 meter, are you talking about model Speedy 9? It claims that max payload is 10kg.

By the way, when you use Red with Nikon mount on your ABC 7.8 crane, did it bounce?

Thank you very much.

Aleksandar Colancevski said:
Depends what you get. They are light but refer to specs, because if you go on edge of weight scale it will bounce. I have ABC 7.8 meter and it's good only for lightweight cameras. And Red is not in that group for sure. I did shoot only once with Nikon mount, fixed lenses and stripped down camera with round NDs.
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Yes, JimmyJib seems nice, as we can build up the whole system from 3m all the way to 12m. It is a great flexibility.

How do you like JummyJib, Aleksandar? Any shortcomings?

Thanks.

Aleksandar Colancevski said:
Yes, they say 10Kg but really 6 or 7 is what you can work with.
Allthow I own the ABC, I rent JimmyJib for my projects.
I think that explains all.
When my Epic comes...maybe...
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As I've mentioned elsewhere, we use our Kessler 12 foot with the Kessler motor head and our Red MX all the time without issue. Just get the extra cross-braces from them (I think about $56 extra) and you will have zero wobble.

16 feet is a no-go on Kessler though.

Sometimes low-cost thinsg really are nonetheless top-notch, and the Kessler is an example.
 
Hello there. Iam going to be placing my 15 year experience on working as a remote crane operator. I have worked with jimmy jib from model 3 to triangle, Egripment various models mostly Scanner, ABC, and have tried pole cam, and some older version of the kesler remote head.
Forts thing you need to know is that the jib is one thing the head is another. The Stanton jimmy jib heads all win the game interms of accuracy and smooth ness and if you are trained ( very important) you can pull very long lenses and very nice shots. They use their own gearheads and maxon motors and they are well made for their price.
ABC though they use good faulbaher motors with on board electronics, they dont feel very good in response and you can tell the difference straight away.
they also have a lot of issues due to tha bad construction of the head. the older Kessler head( not sure of the model but I think is one of the very first) totally useless motion for live moves, motion was very ruff , but I hear that these days its a totally different case so I cant comment on new kessler gear
Egripment also were not very good in responce and not as smooth as jimmy jib .Polecam however is quite smooth and with the onboard hd camera its really what you should go for if you are into carrying gear for documentaries in difficult locations.
about the boom cranes now.
Firstly remember that if you need a 6 meter crane be prepared to carry around 120-140 kg of counterweights.
THE TRIANGLE at 6 meters is very steady and if you set it up as you should, it feels very rigid, however going longer is more complex, more setting time and more unstable wobbles.it will work ok with a full red one.
the abc I have seen looked to be stable at 6 meters but it was the big version model.
Egripment are just too heavy for your kind of work but very stable and rigid compare to the rest.
On any case you need a lot of counterweights, that is a problem for remote locations. Also the setting time isnt that great and fast either.
If you can live with the HD camera of the polecam and satisfied with the picture I believe its your best choice for your work, and you can carry it at the top of the mountain in a lightweight case and with minimum counterweights.
if not get a jimmy jib triangle , you can start with any length and upgrade if needed.
we are also going to make a very rigid crane and head Carbon fiber but doesnt look it will be very soon.
I hope that helps
Best
 
It is great information, Constantine!
Thank you very much for generously sharing!
By the way, for Polecam, I know they are having a new version that can take HDSLR, and it can take as long as 5 sections of poles, which is more than 5m. Anyone tried it?
Thanks.


constantine Tirintzis said:
Hello there. Iam going to be placing my 15 year experience on working as a remote crane operator. I have worked with jimmy jib from model 3 to triangle, Egripment various models mostly Scanner, ABC, and have tried pole cam, and some older version of the kesler remote head.
Forts thing you need to know is that the jib is one thing the head is another. The Stanton jimmy jib heads all win the game interms of accuracy and smooth ness and if you are trained ( very important) you can pull very long lenses and very nice shots. They use their own gearheads and maxon motors and they are well made for their price.
ABC though they use good faulbaher motors with on board electronics, they dont feel very good in response and you can tell the difference straight away.
they also have a lot of issues due to tha bad construction of the head. the older Kessler head( not sure of the model but I think is one of the very first) totally useless motion for live moves, motion was very ruff , but I hear that these days its a totally different case so I cant comment on new kessler gear
Egripment also were not very good in responce and not as smooth as jimmy jib .Polecam however is quite smooth and with the onboard hd camera its really what you should go for if you are into carrying gear for documentaries in difficult locations.
about the boom cranes now.
Firstly remember that if you need a 6 meter crane be prepared to carry around 120-140 kg of counterweights.
THE TRIANGLE at 6 meters is very steady and if you set it up as you should, it feels very rigid, however going longer is more complex, more setting time and more unstable wobbles.it will work ok with a full red one.
the abc I have seen looked to be stable at 6 meters but it was the big version model.
Egripment are just too heavy for your kind of work but very stable and rigid compare to the rest.
On any case you need a lot of counterweights, that is a problem for remote locations. Also the setting time isnt that great and fast either.
If you can live with the HD camera of the polecam and satisfied with the picture I believe its your best choice for your work, and you can carry it at the top of the mountain in a lightweight case and with minimum counterweights.
if not get a jimmy jib triangle , you can start with any length and upgrade if needed.
we are also going to make a very rigid crane and head Carbon fiber but doesnt look it will be very soon.
I hope that helps
Best
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