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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

720P and 1080P... losers

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It was a little quiet tonight.... :-)

Jim
 
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Jannard said:
STOP. Engineers have just said that 2K at 96fps for now is all we can talk about as a possible option. See, things can change in a minute.

Not saying we will do this, just looking for opinions.

Jim
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Jim are we still against the processor wall again here?

If so it would appear that its only a matter of time before it's (easily?) upgradeable (abeit heat issues with more powerfull chips).
 
Jannard said:
STOP. Engineers have just said that 2K at 96fps for now is all we can talk about as a possible option. See, things can change in a minute.

Not saying we will do this, just looking for opinions.

Jim
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2k 96fps would be incredible... if this is the case..then i wouldn't miss 1080p or 720p. I think we all agree the only point of the lower formats was the higher fps. 4k 60fps redcode would be icing on the cake..

what do your engineers say about 4k at higher fps?
 
JDHolloway said:
Jim are we still against the processor wall again here?

If so it would appear that its only a matter of time before it's (easily?) upgradeable (abeit heat issues with more powerfull chips).
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We have room for what we advertised... I'm just wondering if all these options are really necessary. We can't ever think of why we would shoot 2K (except for high frame rates), let alone shoot 720P or 1080P (ugh!). If we wouldn't ever shoot that, we are wondering why anyone would. We can certainly give our customers these options. Just seems dumb to me... at least tonight.

Jim
 
Allright guys, the 120fps option is almost feature number one that pushed me into going with the Red. So let's make it simple:
I could actually dance naked on a French soccer stadium during a game in order to have the 120fps 2K be part of the production release.

Seriously Jim, keep in mind that the high fps capability is the main reason why people are still mostly shooting film on high end music videos and commercials.

So if you don't get this 120fps feature going (even at 720p) you'll be seriously damaging our red rental business potential as we know a lot of this market is likely to shift to the Red IF it has the 120fps.

Thanks for asking our opinion on this;

Arnaud (getting tickets for the next French soccer game)
 
But 2K 96fps is already a bit of achievement stuff ;-)

tonaci said:
2k 96fps would be incredible... if this is the case..then i wouldn't miss 1080p or 720p. I think we all agree the only point of the lower formats was the higher fps. 4k 60fps redcode would be icing on the cake..

what do your engineers say about 4k at higher fps?
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4k at 60 fps is in the spec... just not at 1st release.

Jim
 
That being said 96 is pretty good for 2k. There is software that can generate interframes decently at 2k (I'm no editor). 2:1 would give a pretty good 192 frames interpolated. I know a group doing 6:1 and higher for post (can't imagine it looks that great)
 
If you had the choice of 720P at 120fps or 2K at 96fps, which would you shoot? This isn't a trick question... :-)

Remember than 2k is 2.6 times more resolution than 720P!

Jim
 
Don't worry! :) You already have our answer at your inquiry!! ;-)
 
I agree with the rest on this subject. If 720p is our only way to high frame rates, it has to definitely stay.

If on the other hand 96 fps will be possible on 2K, i couldn't care less about 720p or 1080p.
 
Jim
The arm twister for me was the overcrank ability of the RED - especially 120fps. I would really not want to lose this capacity even though it's 720p resolution.
However, I would settle on ditching 720 and 1080 altogether IF we can record at 96fps 2K because I am confident you guys will most likely be able to squeeze out a few more fps at a later stage making 120fps 2K a real possibility in the future.
Honestly though, the 120fps ability was one of the things I was looking forward to most of all.
Thanks

Cam
 
Jannard said:
If you had the choice of 720P at 120fps or 2K at 96fps, which would you shoot? This isn't a trick question... :-)

Remember than 2k is 2.6 times more resolution than 720P!

Jim
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OK If you'd give us 2K 96fps scaled, we'll forget RGB.

EDIT -- BTW, I think RGB has been an older lover after all also because of the 35mm sensor size scaled feature. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Hi Jim, 2K 96 no doupt, or I rent a phantom with 500 picts :) For me it is clear: I will shoot most of the time 4K, why should I light beautifull scenes and climb on the highest mountains to shoot pictures in 720 or 1080? And if I have to to shoot TV-stuff (what I don't like at all), I'll take my Digibeta or something similar.
 
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