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50% Avid Media Composer Price Cut

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"New Student Edu pricing for the Media Composer Software - $295 US MSRP"

Does the student version have all features enabled or is there any limitation?
If it is same then, there is no doubt that it will be best deal ever.
 
REDefine said:
HTML: 
"New Student Edu pricing for the Media Composer Software - $295 US MSRP"

Does the student version have all features enabled or is there any limitation?
If it is same then, there is no doubt that it will be best deal ever.
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If it's anything like FCP and how Apple does things, it'll be fully functional, but won't be upgradeable (beyond point upgrades) and you aren't supposed to use it in a professional manor. (i.e. make money with it.)
 
Academic version is fully functional... I think it's usually upgradeable like normal versions (so major version upgrades usually incur an extra fee) but I believe it doesn't include the extra software that full version includes. And possibly no printed manuals, but I'm not sure about that one. I've never purchased an Academic version.
 
If only fully functional HD-SDI I/O on new hardware at Aja/BM prices, the ability to capture uncompressed HD with said hardware...then there would really be something worth talking about.
 
Torrie said:
If only fully functional HD-SDI I/O on new hardware at Aja/BM prices, the ability to capture uncompressed HD with said hardware...then there would really be something worth talking about.
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Don't hold your breath. Avid is in the business of selling heavy iron HARDWARE. They will never do that, which is why they are losing market share every day.
 
unfiltered said:
They should have made it $1999, at the most.
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It will get there, two years ago it dropped from extremely expensive hardware/software bundle to $5000. Now it's $2500.

I gave my FCP license to a friend a couple of years ago to upgrade, and was about to buy new FCP studio - now I am seriously considering going to MC.

There are and always were some advantages for heavy duty work on AVID, but just wasn't worth the big price difference - now it is fairly small.

Further a lot of the things that we liked about apple vs Avid don't seem to be as true. For years I have felt strongly that Final cut was a core product for apple to keep improving and keep relatively inexpensive because it sold hardware. Now in the Ipod/Iphone era I am afraid Apple may be content to coast for a while.

Now Avid - once the maxi-priced, bloated big dog - is getting lean - and since editing is their core business they have little choice but to try to keep improving and maintain or improve market share. And they have always worked with the higher end projects so will keep pushing that envelope. Since all of us REDusers are moving toward the high end (even if only in the sense of pushing 4K files around) I think we need to reconsider the APPLE/AVID tradeoffs. AVID doesn't need to compete solely on price - they just need to get close enough that we aren't completely uncomfortable with the additional cost. The $3800 $1299 to $5K price difference was enough to keep me away - but $1200 difference when I've already invested $30K in the camera and $4K on the computer doesn't seem like enough difference to worry about if there are any advantages.
 
Would be great if they could certify the Quadro 4500/5500 SDI and then integrate Speedgrade...all within MC. That would make matching tool sets at a similar price point. Oh, they'd have to buy IRIDAS though...
 
Torrie said:
Would be great if they could certify the Quadro 4500/5500 SDI and then integrate Speedgrade...all within MC. That would make matching tool sets at a similar price point. Oh, they'd have to buy IRIDAS though...
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I hear that Avid's been working quite closely with Filmlight - but what that migh mean in the longer term is unclear. Hopefully Avid Media and AAF support in Baselight - that would be awesome. Consolidate a sequence to hard drive, plug it into a Baselight and grade... :)
 
Well I think you know what I'm saying...Professional apps across the board at Avid IF what I suggested could happen.

Wish I could divulge more but not yet.
 
Sycophant said:
I hear that Avid's been working quite closely with Filmlight - but what that migh mean in the longer term is unclear. Hopefully Avid Media and AAF support in Baselight - that would be awesome. Consolidate a sequence to hard drive, plug it into a Baselight and grade... :)
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We have already done demonstrations with both FilmLight and Digital Vision where they take an AAF directly out of Avid, on shared storage, and color correct the sequence. With FilmLight, you can render the new color files and round trip the AAF back into Avid - because the render had handles, you can relink any changes to to sequences to the rendered color corrected files. Then apply titles and credits and send on out.

Michael
 
Filmlight Baselight is a plug-in for Shake for quite a long ago.

Avid tried to catch up the step because they found out that they are loosing a ground (or simply a market).
 
The Third Man said:
Filmlight Baselight is a plug-in for Shake for quite a long ago.

Avid tried to catch up the step because they found out that they are loosing a ground (or simply a market).
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Filmlight has a plugin for Shake: Truelight.
But it's a colour management plugin.

Filmlight Baselight is a complete DI package.

So this statement is just your ususal FUD, Sanjin
 
MichaelP said:
We have already done demonstrations with both FilmLight and Digital Vision where they take an AAF directly out of Avid, on shared storage, and color correct the sequence. With FilmLight, you can render the new color files and round trip the AAF back into Avid - because the render had handles, you can relink any changes to to sequences to the rendered color corrected files. Then apply titles and credits and send on out.
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That's really awesome Michael. I've been a fan of Baselight for a whlie. That workflow is great. So I assume Baselight can handle Avid 1:1 and DNxHD media in that scenario?

The Third Man said:
Avid tried to catch up the step because they found out that they are loosing a ground (or simply a market).
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Your mistaken assumption has been pointed out - but what is it you have against Avid? I don't understand it.
 
Yes - JFIF and DNxHD media formats with AAF metadata for the sequence.

Michael
 
Drop Adrenaline SD, decrease price of Adrenaline HD??

Drop Adrenaline SD, decrease price of Adrenaline HD??

I think it's about time Avid either drops the Adrenaline non-HD or makes it cheaper; plus drop the price of the HD version of Adrenaline.

Some how BlackMagic has managed to make a BoB that can do most of what the Adrenaline does, for 3000 dollars (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/multibridge/).... I'm not saying Adrenaline should come down that much but.....

Thoughts?


(And maybe MojoHD?)

BTW, how much is DVS Clipster?
 
An HD Mojo would be totally kick ass. One of the reasons we opted in the end for an FCP suite was the giant we'd have to make from MC/Xpress Mojo to MC Adrenaline HD to get anything close to the HD workflow we wanted (and even then Varicam at 25fps was still going to be a nightmare).

BlackMagic are a neat company with some cool stuff. AJA too. If Avid can find a way to fit those types of third-party solutions into their business model, I think it would do a lot to get Avid back into those areas that have more recently 'fallen' to FCP.

I think AJA's IoHD is probably slightly closer to the Adrenaline (it uses the Firewire bus for connection) whereas the Multibridge actually operates as an externalised PCI-Express device.

Interestingly (or not), I captured Avid media with a Blackmagic Decklink HD Extreme last week... It seemed to work just fine, although I couldn't convince Avid to 'fast import' it.
 
this is good news! (a friend of mine was ready to order premiere, he dropped his order for this news in 30 seconds)

but i can second different posts: MC supporting AJA Hardware would be a killer combination.

regards,
martin

p.s. using avid and final cut pro ;-)
 
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