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4K TV Technology

4K TV Technology

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Denizhan Nacar

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That's impressive! but $11,580 is a bit out of my range for now.
 
Its a shame I can't walk into Selfridges or anywhere in Singapore and pick one of these up, given it'd be like the first plasma screens that were around 20K or rather 10K USD. Crazy stuff...but damn I'd jump on board now!

I'm curious to hear REDs Consumer Projector though, maybe a better choice than a TV?
 
Imran Farouk said:
I'm curious to hear REDs Consumer Projector though, maybe a better choice than a TV?
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If you're talking sheer quality, more than likely. But a projector will never ever be a staple in the home simply because most people cannot use such a thing due to space requirements and existing layouts. Sub 50-inch HDTV sets dominate the sales charts because those are what people can fit in their homes without going to the trouble of switching things up. For a quality big screen experience in the home of the average person, a display device like Sony's Personal 3D Viewer is the only viable solution at this time since you can buy several of them for the price of a large high quality HDTV. Unfortunately, they don't have the OLED technology at high resolutions yet, so they aren't ready for widespread adoption. Hopefully, RED will come up with something similar as it's unrealistic to expect them to price their projector at ridiculously low prices to compete with TVs.
 
L. Langer said:
If you're talking sheer quality, more than likely. But a projector will never ever be a staple in the home simply because most people cannot use such a thing due to space requirements and existing layouts. Sub 50-inch HDTV sets dominate the sales charts because those are what people can fit in their homes without going to the trouble of switching things up. For a quality big screen experience in the home of the average person, a display device like Sony's Personal 3D Viewer is the only viable solution at this time since you can buy several of them for the price of a large high quality HDTV. Unfortunately, they don't have the OLED technology at high resolutions yet, so they aren't ready for widespread adoption. Hopefully, RED will come up with something similar as it's unrealistic to expect them to price their projector at ridiculously low prices to compete with TVs.
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Agreed, it would probably be priced towards the higher end 1080p projectors and then some but still good for those that care about quality. I'm just curious how they will be able to market these 4K TVs. There needs to be a proper consumer friendly method to obtaining 4K content and presenting it to these potential buyers. For those of us here, we know what the difference in quality between 1080p and 4K is. The average consumer won't and that is where the pricing will drop massively is when they start targeting those consumers. It's just a matter on delivery method.

Long shot but some say there is potential for a 4K Apple TV. Thats just rumors though. If it were true however, it would pretty much kill any of the above statement. Doubt it though, given they are a big fan of this whole 'resolution' thing with 'retina display'.

Think right now, delivery method is key. Once thats done. Convincing studios to pull in with remastered content to 4K and you'll have a lot of people jumping on it. Imagine all the classic films people loved brought back in 4K and for the price of around 4-5 grand. 40-55" TV. I think a lot of people would buy in straight away. Though wouldn't BluRays typically be able to deliver 4K content? Swear they can go up to 60GB on a bluray disk or something nuts...
 
Now THIS is an exciting new thread!

All we need now is a RED RAY machine to stream content to these sexy panels... and $11K as a first price is INCREDIBLE! 2 years ago this stuff was $60K
in 2 years it will be >$5K-

This all helps sell EPIC and SCARLET over HD today... why? FUTURE PROOFING BABY.. I sure wouldn't want to see 1080P image uprezzed to 4K- it must look like a George Sarat painting
 
Denizhan Nacar said:
Luc they will be available only in Japan for a while...
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I'm not holding my breath. Besides, I have a Scarlet on my shopping list way before a 4k screen. :)
 
The toshiba panel is coming to the UK in March - we'll lay our hands on one asap before then, as we have a little inside line with Toshiba. I'll report on it as soon as I can from a Reduser perspective. :)
 
Imran Farouk said:
Agreed, it would probably be priced towards the higher end 1080p projectors and then some but still good for those that care about quality. I'm just curious how they will be able to market these 4K TVs. There needs to be a proper consumer friendly method to obtaining 4K content and presenting it to these potential buyers. For those of us here, we know what the difference in quality between 1080p and 4K is. The average consumer won't and that is where the pricing will drop massively is when they start targeting those consumers. It's just a matter on delivery method.

Long shot but some say there is potential for a 4K Apple TV. Thats just rumors though. If it were true however, it would pretty much kill any of the above statement. Doubt it though, given they are a big fan of this whole 'resolution' thing with 'retina display'.

Think right now, delivery method is key. Once thats done. Convincing studios to pull in with remastered content to 4K and you'll have a lot of people jumping on it. Imagine all the classic films people loved brought back in 4K and for the price of around 4-5 grand. 40-55" TV. I think a lot of people would buy in straight away. Though wouldn't BluRays typically be able to deliver 4K content? Swear they can go up to 60GB on a bluray disk or something nuts...
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The problem with 4K content today is that you can't really sell it to consumers even if you had a 4K TV and delivery codec to go right now. There are older movies and shows from the 30's - 90's that can be remastered at 4K (and we obviously have a handful of them with 4K masters at this point) because they are film-based and that's a very time consuming and expensive process that many recent works that are considered to be "must have" (they will sell a format) will never ever get because they only exist in the finished form of a 2K DI used for film-out and cannot be remade without re-doing the post production work or upscaling to 4K, neither of which is an option for content holders in most cases. Yes, you can certainly go out and make 4K content right now, but it's the movies and TV shows that people identify with and enjoy that sells home media. In today's world and today's market demographics, most of those things that people want to buy and are buying will never be available in 4K. Going forward, that will obviously change as the movie industry makes the transition to 4K digital cinema cameras through RED and Sony's offerings and 4K digital post production pipelines become more affordable and widespread over the next five years, followed by the TV industry, which will still take the better part of a decade to go there given how attached they are to what they have recently adopted in the HD transition.
 
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