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4K OR 2K for music video

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Hi i am new to the red and will be shooting my first music video on the red. My questions is i need some real slow shots i know that i will prolly need the 2k for that im just not sure if i should only shoot those shots in 2k and the rest in 4k. will it match right or just shoot all in 2k. and what is the best redcode to use in this can u get redcode 42 in 2k... Please help'

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I will only shoot 2K if I'm doing slow motion, there is no other reason to do so. I often use 3K up to 60fps if that's as high as a frame rate that I need to shoot. 2K scaled to 1080P is not going to be as sharp as 4K scaled to 1080P, however 2k, 3k and 4K all match perfectly fine in a single project. So I guess what I'm trying to say is on the RED, always shoot as high resolution as the shot allows.
 
shoot 4k as often as you can.
 
I have doen that exact thing on many occasions. I agree shoot 4k where ever possible and there are no matching issues with going to 2k.. I found visually the quality difference becomes a none issue since the slow motion has a different look / feel anyway.
 
SHOOT 4K, OPTICALLY SLOW IT DOWN IN POST.
 
Use very sharp lenses when in 2K and this can help a lot. Also, make sure you have good exposure, and keep the noise levels as clean as possible. 2K on M-X has actually looked pretty nice to me when using that combination.
 
SHOOT 4K, OPTICALLY SLOW IT DOWN IN POST.

That will never look as good as shooting at a higher framerate. I'll take the resolution hit for better slomo any day. At these resolutions is it really that big a deal? 2k, 4k? Really? The highest output 99.99% of the time we'll be going to is 1080p for at least the next few years...at least for stuff like music videos.

Now back in SD days if you had to shoot at 320x240 to get slomo...I might reconsider that.
 
Don't forget that depth of field and field of view need to be considered in addition to resolution.
Were you to decide to shoot the whole thing at 2K then you are using an S16ish window that would yield 2/3" video type DOF.
The 2K window also makes a 50mm lens play more like a 100mm lens so make sure you have wide enough lenses for your shot list and sufficient physical space.

Cheers - #19
 
Don't forget that depth of field and field of view need to be considered in addition to resolution.
Were you to decide to shoot the whole thing at 2K then you are using an S16ish window that would yield 2/3" video type DOF.
The 2K window also makes a 50mm lens play more like a 100mm lens so make sure you have wide enough lenses for your shot list and sufficient physical space.

Cheers - #19

I was going to suggest the same. With the FOV on R1 2k mode being considerably smaller ... it will make it difficult to go wide unless you have some insanely wide focal lengths going -- like the Duclos 11-16 or something else that wide, which is rare. If you own or know someone with an R1, see if you can borrow it for a quick test ahead of time. If you don't and this is a rental ... be sure to budget enough time to be able to see which focal lengths you need for the slow stuff and that the 2k window is okay for those needs.

Anthony
 
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