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3D standardization

Patrick Tresch

Patrick Tresch

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I've just been watching a video with Alain Derobe who is arguing that 3D lacks of standardization and this would need a visionary man to push the industry.

Like Estman in 1910 who travelled the world to put 35mm print as a standard, there should be a man that could convince the industries for the good of 3D beyond DCI.

He speaks about the unaxeptable light loss of current 3D projectors/systems.

Listen to Alain Derobe

The whole interview is very interesting but he speaks about this particular point @ 11'00''.

http://exposureroom.com/members/richardandry/1e5cf99a1a114d24882e2acf16d9f210/


Patrick


PS: We all know a man who could do this... ;-)
 
It's in French.
 
It is what I had been saying for years... I guess I might end up been that man... Unless some one else does it before I do... ;)

However, I can promise you that Press reales soon to be made public will show that what I might have to say could count a bit heavier then some one might think... ;)

Distiction also needs apply form 3D acquisition to 3D conversion, and of course an entire set of rules, especially the one that forbids publication of 3D product that is obviously BAD.
 
Ketch, I'm pretty sure Patrick was referring to you. ;) With 3D being here to stay, there has to be someone to set things straight. But then again, rules in movies and film have always been made to be broken..
 
he he, problem is that you brake certain rules in 3D space and you cause major VISUAL CORTEX MUSCLE issues, in turn giving people very bad headaches and or to the worst make them vomit... No one wants that, so there needs to be a regulatory guide lines for submissions of 3D films before they are released, period!!
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
he he, problem is that you brake certain rules in 3D space and you cause major VISUAL CORTEX MUSCLE issues, in turn giving people very bad headaches and or to the worst make them vomit... No one wants that, so there needs to be a regulatory guide lines for submissions of 3D films before they are released, period!!
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That is so very true... and yet I'm still bumping into people shooting 3D who say "rules were made to be broken." *sigh*
 
I personally think that 'rules' and 'standards' are less inhibiting than the creative use of 3D. 3net & Nat Geo have at least put in place QC guidelines before airing content, now do I think those standards are sound, absolutely not, but they at least did so in order to attempt to control 'bad 3D'. And QC on the big screen is a lot better than it was 2 years ago(obviously there's plenty of new releases that don't fall into that category). But the problem is that it's still just terrible content. People might not think 'this is comfortable 3D', but they definitely watch some content and think 'why am I watching this in 3D'. I know in the last 24 months, I've done my fair share of boring 3D content.

And it's hard to develop eye strain standards because it's so subjective as to what is and isn't healthy. Things deemed as 'straining' when given in small doses, might have no negative effects on the audience, though it's obviously impossible to say. There's obviously things that simply can't be merged when there's too much deviation, but occlusions for a few moments or window violations are hardly noticable in certain instances (just giving examples).

There's luckily going to be some great releases this year that will be much more enjoyable to see in 3D (Promethius, Gatsby, Hobbit, Spiderman, Step Up 4 :-) ), but sadly there will be a large amount of bad un-necessary content in 3D released this year too. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

But I definitely agree on the standardization of theatre QC, as last year I saw a screening of Harry Potter that was vertically mis-aligned so bad, it was virtually unwatchable to me. And this continues to happen.

rant/
 
Is their a global standards for 3D theater glasses that are used in the theater? Half my battle is placing the 3d glasses over my prescription glasses. Seems like i see them hand out two different types of glasses when I go, based on the movie. Seems when i see 3d in imax, it's a different pair of glasses then 3d in normal area's. For how much the tickets are, I bet a lot of people would be willing to have 3D glasses that fit over prescription glasses. [beating a dead horse on this one?]
 
We are working on something as part of our KETCH ROSSi TREE of LiFE mega project which will also include the launch of a truly New Era Global Movie Theater Chain, this will have around 100' of Wide Screen in each of their cinema viewing rooms, with a standardized 3D 4K system, were Lighting and Focusing of the Projectors will be critically looked after by well trained Projectionist specialized in this new technologies, and the Media, as well as an introduction of a new form of Distribution regulatory guidelines, and I promise you that those that will partner up with us are some of the HUGEST names in Hollywood and abroad, so I am confident that Positive results are coming in the near future in favor of good 3D content... ;)
 
And so the plot thickens ;)
KETCH ROSSi said:
We are working on something as part of our KETCH ROSSi TREE of LiFE mega project which will also include the launch of a truly New Era Global Movie Theater Chain, this will have around 100' of Wide Screen in each of their cinema viewing rooms, with a standardized 3D 4K system, were Lighting and Focusing of the Projectors will be critically looked after by well trained Projectionist specialized in this new technologies, and the Media, as well as an introduction of a new form of Distribution regulatory guidelines, and I promise you that those that will partner up with us are some of the HUGEST names in Hollywood and abroad, so I am confident that Positive results are coming in the near future in favor of good 3D content... ;)
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Derobe says : good 3D film can be achieved only If it gets freed from the 2D exibition of the film.
And because good 3D is a new language and not an add on, it's subject to the economic sustainability of it.

Pat
 
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