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3D... SONY, SAMSUNG AND PANASONIC ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG...

Nathaniel Haban said:
A while back, I had watched an episode of "Ebert Presents: At the Movies" that covered the trend of 3D films.

http://www.ebertpresents.com/episodes/2011-07

At the end of the episode, one of the hosts remarked that for him, he wasn't sold on the idea of 3D technology for all films, in particular indie films. Until,as he put it: "someone makes a way to shoot a $250,000 movie in 3D."

I just smiled
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And I'm trying to do my part (see the sig)
 
Michael Hastings said:
And I'm trying to do my part (see the sig)
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Nice.

BTW - love the "save the sharks." When I was really little, I wanted to be an ichthyologist. Underwater filming with sharks would be a dream.
 
Rich Schaefer said:
I agree Passive is the way to go! 4k would be best so when the Rez is cut in half we still have at least 1920x1080.
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If done properly, there is no need to cut the resolution to half. Half-rez is a half-assed compromise -- it's the 3D equivalent to interlaced video.
 
I actually feel that for 3D to have a future it will be a no-glasses future or it will remain 3D only for reserved special events. I know too many people below the age of 25 and stories all the way down to young children who prefer to see movie non-3D vs. 3D. Will this change once all these movies are shot in 3D? Maybe... but I while I was perfectly comfortable saying film would be nearly obsolete in our near future 8 years ago... I'm not feeling that 2D films are slated to be obsolete. They have a different look. I don't think people want to watch comedies in 3D or a serious drama... I think people enjoy depth of field. I'm quite sure tent-pole event films will be pushing the 3D. I know many games will push it... but I even know avid gamers who choose not to play in 3D when they can - but if the glasses were removed... I think 3D adoption would be much more likely.
 
In their zeal to curb costs, Exhibitors and the Studios did the usual value-engineering on the current crop of 3D glasses we're all over-paying for at the Multiplex. The field of view is too small, the lenses are too dark and they don't fit well over glasses. Whatever Jim has up his sleeve, I hope its comfortable, bright and has a wide field of view.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
If done properly, there is no need to cut the resolution to half. Half-rez is a half-assed compromise -- it's the 3D equivalent to interlaced video.
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Indeed. Just add a layer which alternates the polarity of the light leaving the screen every 1/120th second. You don't even need to address that on a per pixel level. Just change direction for the entire screen. This thread has a sample for that for cinema, should be possible for TVs too. Wonder what they'd cost. Or are some passive glasses 3D TV doing this already?

It'd probably flicker a bit, though. Maybe 200Hz :)
 
I get your point Lucas, then again, that's only one movie you are quoting. Also, I was a bit tired when I wrote that and I meant "camera weight", just hearing Dariusz Wolski on Pirates of the Carribean, when shooting on a beach with a 3D steadicam rig, the operator had the sand up to his ankle and had to constantly walk between takes to avoid that. Being near the sea involved salt, they would sometimes change mirrors up to 3 times a day (and they also reduce light by one stop). Realignment is probably not a problem in a studio but think about the rig up on a crane or on a moving car...
 
Yeah that one I have been keeping an eye on as it is also 4k, so a nice grading monitor too, if it could work... ;)

I paid 8k for my Samsung 9000 series, when it first came out, so this is not too far out as pricing for some one that is first on bringing this to market,
I'll need to take my Denali up to Germany for shopping soon he he.
 
Wish I could afford it :(

Ketch, you lucky dog
 
Eric Z said:
Well, there's this ZL2 TV from Toshiba with glasses-free 3D:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/toshibas-glasses-free-3d-tv-launches-in-europe-as-the-zl2-in-de/

8,000 Euro for the 55" model, which by the way - has quadHD res (3840x2160).
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the problem at this currently available glassfree TVs is the effect of habituation,
after 20 minutes you don´t realize that it is 3D anymore. You have to move with your chair slightly left and right, so you´ll need a sort of motorized chair- slider (Zacuto maybe?)
;-)


patiently waiting for laser...

bg
alex
 
THIS IS WAR! I AGREE.....
 
Liam Hall said:
3D's jumped the shark already; holography is where it's at...


http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/31/researchers-develop-a-360-degree-holographic-display/
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Calling this a holographic display is somewhat misleading. It is not actually the holographic display that most people would imagine. This is a 3D vector display that uses holographic optics to diffuse a laser beam and make 3D images. This is not a full motion, full color, white light hologram. The elusive holy grail of motion pictures. Help me Obi Wan Kenobi (that was actually monochromatic I believe, and pretty low res).
 
Pierre Henri Landriau said:
... Being near the sea involved salt, they would sometimes change mirrors up to 3 times a day (and they also reduce light by one stop).
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Just a quick note, this is due to the decision of substrate (glass) and the coating (in this case it was organic) from 1st unit rigs (we were 2nd unit). Organic is just not the way to go when shooting and any environmental concern (air, smog, exhaust, salt, sweat, fingers, ect) will cause the coating to disintegrate. Shoot with a 20nm (nano-meter) thick dielectric coated, Schott water-white mirror and you would be using the same piece of glass over several projects. World Cup in South Africa we replaced one piece of glass (due to a ball hitting the mirrorbox if memory serves). Prometheus, The Darkest Hour, etc., we never got an order for additional mirrors. Perhaps their spares covered them but we never got an order to replace the spares.

As for filter changes, we now sell filter retainers for the Optimo DPs that let you house 107mm and 4.5" filters of your choice. NDs or 1/4 wave. For filter changes on the mirrorbox, two thumbscrews now makes that change in about a minute. We are constantly looking at ways to improve the operator's experience and now that we are one company merging our resources, 3D can only get better.
 
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