"3CCD", "3CMOS", what about "3Mysterium"

[Jonathon Laing]

Hey guys I'm just getting into the hype of these new awsome cameras. So I've notice the cameras are made with only once sensor known as Mysterium. I was just wondering if, like most other chips, you could have 3 of them to make an even better Red camera.

Hmmmm Just imagine a Red with 3 Mysteriums. So much color.. Yummm.


Sorry if this is a whack idea. Just a cool thought that poped up.


Cheers.

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Read up about it - there's significant compromises from a three chip approach, like for instance not being able to use normal cinema lenses, aberations from the prism needed, limits to maximum sensor size etc. As for colour - do you think colour is limited on a high end DSLR? It's not limited on a RED either - they both use single chips for good reason.

Graeme

 

[J. Eric Camp]

What he said.

And he is the kind of guy to listen to.

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Just because in the consumer realm, 1 chip was bad and 3 chips was good does not actually mean 1 chip is bad and 3 chips are good. It's just that in the past, in consumer cameras, that was sort of the case, but it's not a general rule by any means. Indeed, the very best digital cinema cameras available are all single chip, and of course, all digital stills cameras are single chip. It's not how many chips you have, but what you do with them that counts....

Graeme

 

[Brian Harbauer]

I would be more concerned about the mosaic color coating then how many chips. I would think that's what would determine how pure the colors would turn out.

Would that be a correct deduction Graeme?

 

[Graeme Nattress]

How the colours turn out is a whole system thing. You either get it right, or you don't, and there are umpteen different places in the whole chain you can screw them up. To single out a single spot is not correct - you've got to look at the system as a whole.

Graeme

 

[Brian Harbauer]

Gotcha. Makes sense.

 

[Jonathon Laing]

Thanks for that guys. Its anoying how things are always made out to be simple. For instance more chips equals more quality and color. Guess thats not the case, but know knows maybe some how red find a way to use three effeciently without causing problems with cinema lenses. Anyways thanks for educating me more! Now I have to go learn the basics of lenses and what to look for in them :ranting2:

 

[Uli Plank]

It's just the same with photosites on a chip: more don't necessarily mean better images. As Graeme said, it's a whole system you need to look at.

But ordinary humans tend to believe that higher numbers are always better…

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Yep, you've got to look at the whole system, and the nuances, which do take some time to learn.

Graeme

 

[azadfilm-jami]

ART still needed

ART still needed

among all the discussions about how much more can we get out of a camera or compression or quality or more quality and not enough quality for less money and etc and etc we tend to forget Creativity still needed and once u got a good story going or story telling or what ever u do with the camera- every one will remember not what u shot with or at which resolution. Lawrence of arabia or Citizen kane were shot with Box view finder old style lenses and no Digital imagery- "so worry about what u going to do with the camera instead of what camera can do for u "
:calm:

 

[Jonathon Laing]

among all the discussions about how much more can we get out of a camera or compression or quality or more quality and not enough quality for less money and etc and etc we tend to forget Creativity still needed and once u got a good story going or story telling or what ever u do with the camera- every one will remember not what u shot with or at which resolution. Lawrence of arabia or Citizen kane were shot with Box view finder old style lenses and no Digital imagery- "so worry about what u going to do with the camera instead of what camera can do for u "
:calm:

I don't disagree with what your saying but not everybody on here is a director/writer. Some are only DP's some are camera operators, and there job is to give the best resolution/quality picture for the story somebu\ody else is telling.

 

[KStephens]

I don't disagree with what your saying but not everybody on here is a director/writer. Some are only DP's some are camera operators, and there job is to give the best resolution/quality picture for the story somebu\ody else is telling.

Indeed. And let's not forget that people that want to tell stories (writers/directors) might also care about the visual side of film-making. After all, film-making is a visual art. For the same reason a still photographer cares about the quality that is crucial to the power and beauty of a single still, film-makers care about the frames in their work.