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2017/2018 someone please kill teal and orange!

David Battistella

David Battistella

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Watching Angelina Jolie’s new flick on Netflix and I have to say the only thing taking me OUT of the story is the teal and orange grade.

Enough already.

#killtealandroange

Fuck.
 
When humans evolve to where their skintones aren't in the orange range then we can use a different contrasting color ;-)
 
David Battistella said:
Watching Angelina Jolie’s new flick on Netflix and I have to say the only thing taking me OUT of the story is the teal and orange grade.

Enough already.

#killtealandroange

Fuck.
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I know! So tired of it!
 
Intriguing the first time, redundant thereafter, cliched once it becomes marketable.
 
David Battistella said:
Watching Angelina Jolie’s new flick on Netflix and I have to say the only thing taking me OUT of the story is the teal and orange grade.

Enough already.

#killtealandroange

Fuck.
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I'm with 100%, oh, no, I'm only with you 50%. And, here's why.
Yes, to the destruction of TEAL, but I love ORANGE and my CTO or CTS filters are still used quite often.

Teal needs to go back to being CTB. :)
 
Martin Stevens said:
I'm with 100%, oh, no, I'm only with you 50%. And, here's why.
Yes, to the destruction of TEAL, but I love ORANGE and my CTO or CTS filters are still used quite often.

Teal needs to go back to being CTB. :)
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THIS �� !! I love color separation especially warm skin tones and cool backgrounds.
But the teal orange thing is WAY, WAY over done and when it's done it's TOO DAMN HEAVY !

I've done a few teal orange colorgrades recently that where very subtle and looked quite nice,
but the key was they where subtle!

Martin hits it!
 
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I hate teal/orange... HATE

Strong word, but every time I see it I feel that a cinematographer's soul died somewhere. I'm more on Deakins side in this. Shoot and enhance what you shot. He doesn't do anything more advanced than a film lab if he doesn't need to (problems etc.). Teal/orange also creates those awful bridge-points between teal and orange where it looks like a bit-error in colors. Hate it, all of it.
 
What's worse than teal & orange is that it doesn't sell the movie. I might understand if it was done to significantly boost sales. But it doesn't. It's just computer wanking. I would say the same about Film Convert. It's like people don't realize that there are grades between On and Off.

A lot of commercial photographers think that Photoshop is somehow a compulsory step between taking the photo and publishing it. Most of it is actually disgusting. The rest is unnecessary. Damn, these tools are supposed to rescue photos or tidy them up, not *fuck* them up.

I prefer to let the light do the talking.
 
Karim D. Ghantous said:
What's worse than teal & orange is that it doesn't sell the movie. I might understand if it was done to significantly boost sales. But it doesn't. It's just computer wanking. I would say the same about Film Convert. It's like people don't realize that there are grades between On and Off.
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I agree with you in that I think the grade has to enhance the story, not get in your face and become way over-the-top and too noticeable.

I can and have used orange & teal (with 4 or 5 different strategies), but I'm usually able to convince the client to use it only in small doses and dial it back so that it's not too intrusive. I think a strong look like that is more powerful when the greater part of the movie goes in a normal direction. Two solid hours of orange & teal are too much of a visual assault to me.

I get that it's often a DP/director decision and not left up to the colorist & post crew. They want what they want.
 
HBO showed a "restored" version of the Godfather Epic with an Orange/Teal grade. Gordon Willis must be turning in his grave. Many classics have actually been restored with a new Orange/Teal grade including The Red Shoes.
 
Aaron Lochert said:
Are we talking about First They Killed My Father? I just scrubbed through it and I'm not seeing anything even remotely offensive as far as the grade goes.
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In some early flashback scenes and then it levelled out. Overall a Nice looking film (maybe too nice) shot on F55.
 
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