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2/3 Fixed Feature?

Norman B. Miller

Norman B. Miller

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Anyone here planning to do a feature with the 2/3 fixed camera? If so what quality level do you see it achieving? Star Wars, Speed Racer and Zodiac were shot with 2/3 in sensors. Do you think Scarlet will be able to achieve that level of image quality, given adequate lighting?
 
28 Days later was shot on mini dv (canon xl-2 i believe), and Crank 2 was shot on a bunch of soccer mom cams. They both looked good. The camera does not make your movie look good, it's who is using the camera, the lighting, the set design, art direction, costumes, and color grading that really make your movie look good.

The Scarlet will give you lots of room to play with the image in post. It's up to you to make it look good.
 
Norman B. Miller said:
Anyone here planning to do a feature with the 2/3 fixed camera? If so what quality level do you see it achieving? Star Wars, Speed Racer and Zodiac were shot with 2/3 in sensors. Do you think Scarlet will be able to achieve that level of image quality, given adequate lighting?
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Personally I think it will be signifiicantly better. For starters it can shoot native 1.89:1 wide screen digital cinema format without cropping the sensor and with more than twice the pixel resolution of a 1080p camera. It should be able to produce a fully resolved 2k DPX digital cinema format image, something no 1080p HD camera can do.
 
Brad Webb said:
28 Days later was shot on mini dv (canon xl-2 i believe), and Crank 2 was shot on a bunch of soccer mom cams. They both looked good. The camera does not make your movie look good, it's who is using the camera, the lighting, the set design, art direction, costumes, and color grading that really make your movie look good.

The Scarlet will give you lots of room to play with the image in post. It's up to you to make it look good.
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Crank 2 looks awesome!
 
28 Days later was shot on mini dv (canon xl-2 i believe), and Crank 2 was shot on a bunch of soccer mom cams. They both looked good. The camera does not make your movie look good, it's who is using the camera, the lighting, the set design, art direction, costumes, and color grading that really make your movie look good.

The Scarlet will give you lots of room to play with the image in post. It's up to you to make it look good.
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I dont know if i would consider Canon XH-A1's soccer mom cams...but still, its a strong point.
 
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Brad Webb said:
28 Days later was shot on mini dv (canon xl-2 i believe), and Crank 2 was shot on a bunch of soccer mom cams. They both looked good. The camera does not make your movie look good, it's who is using the camera, the lighting, the set design, art direction, costumes, and color grading that really make your movie look good.

The Scarlet will give you lots of room to play with the image in post. It's up to you to make it look good.
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Brad, I will be doing a new kind of doc that uses fine art from around the world which has to have good color rendition with high resolution for my program to work and although I agree with what you say for the type of film you mentioned, I'm working with a different type of animal; I'm trying to access from the pros on this board if the Scarlet will meet my needs...Thanks for posting...
 
I'm trying to access from the pros on this board if the Scarlet will meet my needs...Thanks for posting...
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That post is very telling. Brad may be a pro.

But to answer your question, YES. it will be fine

Truthfully, so would a 1080p Panasonic HPX.

The Scarlet will be CAPABLE of making images on par with those in Speed Racer or Episode Two.

What you really need to ask yourself is if your director of photography and your Color grader have the skills to get the images to look that good. Do they?
 
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Rick Presas said:
That post is very telling. Brad may be a pro.

But to answer your question, YES. it will be fine

Truthfully, so would a 1080p Panasonic HPX.
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Was in NO way putting Brad down just letting him know what my needs were, I'm sure Brad is very good at what he does..
 
Norman B. Miller said:
Brad, I will be doing a new kind of doc that uses fine art from around the world which has to have good color rendition with high resolution for my program to work and although I agree with what you say for the type of film you mentioned, I'm working with a different type of animal; I'm trying to access from the pros on this board if the Scarlet will meet my needs...Thanks for posting...
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Scarlet shoots images in 12 bit RAW format like a digital still camera. 5mp resolution. You can get the kind of color depth and overall image quality you see with a typical decent quality DSLR and all the advantages of precision color correction that shooting raw affords.
 
Thanks David:
When I found out what Scarlet was going to do I bought a Nikon P 6000 and got Aperture to learn color correcting which was a big help in learning the possibilities of shooting RED RAW.
 
Norman B. Miller said:
Thanks David:
When I found out what Scarlet was going to do I bought a Nikon P 6000 and got Aperture to learn color correcting which was a big help in learning the possibilities of shooting RED RAW.
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To get an even better idea, download Redcine-X beta from Red.com/support and see if you can find a couple of .r3d sample files to play with. It was an eye opener for me.
 
Norman B. Miller said:
Anyone here planning to do a feature with the 2/3 fixed camera? If so what quality level do you see it achieving? Star Wars, Speed Racer and Zodiac were shot with 2/3 in sensors. Do you think Scarlet will be able to achieve that level of image quality, given adequate lighting?
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Only a mad person would be planning to use a camera with an unspecified release date and vague specs for a concrete project.
 
Pierre T. said:
Only a mad person would be planning to use a camera with an unspecified release date and vague specs for a concrete project.
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What? I plan on shooting a "long" short film with the Fixed Scarlet. We won't be shooting till fall of next year and I guarantee you that I will have it in my hands well before then. If it doesn't make it out before then (and thats a total possibility), it's not like I won't shoot the film, I just REALLY want to shoot it on the Fixed. I'll probably rent an R1 in the case that the Fixed isn't in my hands by then. But I am fairly certain it will be. =]
 
Norman B. Miller said:
Anyone here planning to do a feature with the 2/3 fixed camera? If so what quality level do you see it achieving? Star Wars, Speed Racer and Zodiac were shot with 2/3 in sensors. Do you think Scarlet will be able to achieve that level of image quality, given adequate lighting?
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Absolutely! If I had the budget, I'd go with an Epic, but a 2/3 fixed should be perfectly fine for just about anything.
 
David Rasberry said:
To get an even better idea, download Redcine-X beta from Red.com/support and see if you can find a couple of .r3d sample files to play with. It was an eye opener for me.
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Thanks David...Sounds like a good idea and one I had not considered....I'll give it a try....any ideas on where to get some .r3d files?
 
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