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15mm Rod plate for mattebox & FF

Hey Kiel,
The shoulder brace as awesome, but the baseplate wiill not work. We purchased one and the hole pattern will not work at all. It is well made, but more suitable for accessories like an audio recorder, shotgun mic support, etc. The Red or Wooden Camera baseplates are the way to go. But, the following items from the eBay company are really nice:
Shoulder pad
Sliding Top Handle (Very nice and really nice to be able to move to accomodate any balance point, unlike the ones that bolt directly to the Scarlet)
Carbon Fiber Rods
Lens support (REALLY Nice - quick release and very well machined)
Cage (Very Sturdy - I have tested carying around 30 lbs of barbell weights and it is rock solid)

I will try to post a few photos later today or tomorrow. The rig looks and feels solid.



Kiel Milligan said:
nice really liking the look of the build quality/value of that dslr rig and I might pick up that $159 shoulder pad for my rails. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-Shoulde...372?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbef59d3c

But looking at the plate and rod bracket+baseplate http://www.ebay.com/itm/COOLLCD-Tri...595?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6e157e9b I believe this might be what your referring to? While this is a super cheap option (and looks like it can attach to the Scarlet base), I dont know if it gives the coverage I would like for the bottom of my scarlet.
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Studio & Lightweight Rigs

Studio & Lightweight Rigs

Sorry for the rushed nature of the photos, but I didn't have time to take a "real" photo. I will post up something better later. We have collected accessories from Red, Wooden Camera and DSLR Store (eBay) For a "Studio (larger) rig and a Handheld rig that work well and are reasonably priced.

The Studio Rig:
Wooden Camera:
Easy Riser XL Baseplate
(2) LW15 Brackets (front and rear)
DSLR Store:
Shoulderpad
Cage
Sliding Top Handle
Lens Support

Handheld Rig:
Wooden Camera:
Easy Riser (Standard)
LW15 Front
LW15 Top Mount
Easy Plate
Cheese Side Handle
Tinyversal (to mount 5" Red Touchscreen on to the short top rails with the sliding handle)
DSLR Store:
Sliding Top Handle


The sliding top handle is really sturdy and allows you to balance the load perfectly. It also allows you to move the monitor up or back for best positioning.
 

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Personally I bought into Actionproducts for their elegant 15mm bar/ 3.5mm jackplug solution.

They have a 15mm setup that together with a riser plate allows you to conceal the 3.5mm jackplugs and feeds them through to xlr's at the rear of the camera. I buy 15mm CF rods by the metre length in the UK, (abouot £25 per metre.)
 
Came across this on the other day too. More expensive than the most of the others posted on this thread, but an option none-the-less.

Innocinema Epic 15mm RodMount Lite + Riser $493.00
http://www.innocinema.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_29&products_id=160

Anyone have experience with this unit? Or know what the bottom of the plate looks like?
 
Carelton Holt said:
Sorry for the rushed nature of the photos, but I didn't have time to take a "real" photo. I will post up something better later. We have collected accessories from Red, Wooden Camera and DSLR Store (eBay) For a "Studio (larger) rig and a Handheld rig that work well and are reasonably priced.

The Studio Rig:
Wooden Camera:
Easy Riser XL Baseplate
(2) LW15 Brackets (front and rear)
DSLR Store:
Shoulderpad
Cage
Sliding Top Handle
Lens Support

Handheld Rig:
Wooden Camera:
Easy Riser (Standard)
LW15 Front
LW15 Top Mount
Easy Plate
Cheese Side Handle
Tinyversal (to mount 5" Red Touchscreen on to the short top rails with the sliding handle)
DSLR Store:
Sliding Top Handle


The sliding top handle is really sturdy and allows you to balance the load perfectly. It also allows you to move the monitor up or back for best positioning.
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Carleton, thanks for sharing, I'm pretty sure the WC Riser+Rod mount is the way I'm going, your pics pretty much confirmed it! Are those 12"-long rods on the front or less? How is that length working for you? I was gonna go with 6" for my Redrock FF and mattebox but I'm worried about crowding; I will mostly be using EF glass, I can't afford Cine at the moment.
 
Hey Kiel,
We are using Canon (and a few other choice Canon mount) lenses too. The 12" rails are necessary for our 70-200 f2.8 Canon lens, shorter will work for any of our Primes. The 70-200 needs a lens support as well, so it takes up most of the 12". I think 6" will be too short for all but some really short "old school" type Nikkor lenses, more like 8" to 9" should give enough room for FF and Mattebox on primes. FYI, those in the photo are 12" front, 8" rear and 12" top. The front and rear are aluminum and the top are carbon fiber. The LW15 takes up about 1" of rod, so the 6" is probably too short.

The eBay guy has both Carbon fiber and coated aluminum rods very affordably on his site. We ordered a few of the shorter lengths to accomodate wide angle lenses since the 12" rods will definitely be in the shot on anything less that 50mm or so.

They also sell a really well made rod to rod "riser" that could be used to place an extra set of rods under the camera that I think will allow the shoulder mount to go directly under the camera which might be very handy.

I have a post about our favorite lenses that you are welcome to check out if you are looking for Canon mount lenses that are fast and sharp. http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...I-have-no-lens-background&p=872640#post872640

We have since added the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 but haven't been able to test it since we don't have anything with an ASP-C sensor
 
Carelton Holt said:
Very nice looking gear!
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Just wanted to respond with some more information and pictures: http://blog.innocinema.com/2011/07/...es-galore-actionproducts-at-innocinema-2.aspx

There are also some testimonials and pictures of user's various setups in our thread, as well as updates from Innocinema / ActionProducts here


Let me know if you have any further questions regarding these or any of our products, and feel free to e-mail me at info@innocinema.com or post in the ActionProducts thread and we will get back to you. Thank you!http://reduser.net/forum/showthread...ctionProducts/page34&highlight=actionproducts
 
The "Arri LWS 15mm Rod Console" as seen in my review should be available soon. They were talking about March. The list price mentioned to me was 320€ including the Baseplate/Riser.
I'm stuck with the Woodencamera version and I'd change it for the Arri any day. I truly miss the Arri because it was so much more lightweight and small. Whenever I use a small photo lens on the Scarlet the huge Woodencamera thing is in the way. As far as I could see the Arri version is the only one that's really small and sturdy at the same time.
 
Yes they do. I think I am going to get this setup if I stay with my 15mm kit.

I would rder the C300 studio baseplate from B&H or Adorama as it is cheaper with free shipping. Then order the raiser from Zacuto as this will be cheaper than getting the set and you will get the extra set of 12" rods that come with the C300 kit (but do not seem to come with the Epic Kit). Hope that helps, Adam

http://www.adorama.com/ZCZCSB.html + http://store.zacuto.com/rod-riser-for-se.html

I am thinking to get the Zacuto Zwiss place for my AB batteries so I can move it around for counterbalance or even mount it out to the side with the C300 studio baseplate.

The big debate for me at the moment is if I should be going with the Arri dovetail system and 19mm bars, but its so freaking heavy!
 
Adam Levins said:
Yes they do. I think I am going to get this setup. Order the C300 studio baseplate from B&H or Adorama as it is cheaper. Then order the raiser from Zacuto as. This will be cheaper than getting the set and you will get the 12" rods that come with the C300 kit. Hope that helps, adam
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Are you saying this will support the riser? Do you know if the baseplate of the Recoil handheld rig also has the necessary screw thread? I like it and wrote an article on it.
 
Sebastian Wöber said:
Are you saying this will support the riser? Do you know if the baseplate of the Recoil handheld rig also has the necessary screw thread? I like it and wrote an article on it.
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Yes the studio c300 baseplate is the one to get, that is the one that supports the risser for the Epic and Scarlet. I would not buy the Recoil as it uses a very basic baseplate with few options
 
Hi again Sebastian. I was at work when I was Replying earlier so I was perhaps not as detailed as I should have been. The following is a rig for scarlet that should give you lots of options at a good price. The advantage of this rig is that the battery is mounted Zacuto Zwiss plate and came be moved as needed. For compact work you can push it up to the back of the camera on short rods, pulled back on longer rods of shoulder work and even mounted on the side for tripod work or when the back needs to be as compact as possible.

Here is the shopping list:

Zacuto C300 Studio Baseplate http://store.zacuto.com/c300-studio-baseplate.html

Rod Riser for Scarlet and Epic Cameras http://store.zacuto.com/rod-riser-for-se.html

Zwiss Plate http://store.zacuto.com/Zwiss-Plate.html

Porta Brace Universal Shoulder Pad http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/752114-REG/Porta_Brace_SP_3G_Universal_Shoulder_Pad.html

SHAPE Quick Handle + Rod Block http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/734510-REG/Shape_wlb_HAND5_Quick_Handle_Rod.html

You will also need some short 15mm rods if you want to mouth the Zwiss plate off the side of the baseplate

For me this seems to be the most versatile configuration if not going down the 19mm or Dovetail route. Please chip in anyone if you can improve on this setup

Check out this photo to get an idea of the rig but would pull back the rear 15mm bars to make room for the shoulder pad and I do not like the Zacuto handles and prefer the shape, especially for the price: http://www.zacutoimages.com/p462016165/ea391b6
 
Kiel Milligan said:
+1 for the Shape handle and rod block. Rock solid build, love it.
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Yep! It is one of those bits of Kit that seems under-priced for what it does. When I have a camera on my shoulder and just want to adjust the angle of handle I can do it without taking my eye off the viewfinder.

The one thing I am trying to fix is to get the lens as low as possible in the shoulder mount configuration. The Porta brace is great but adds a bit too much height IMHO
 
Gary Paul Walker said:
is it any good?
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I haven't decided what rig to invest in yet, but I had a Zacuto DSLR rig (Double Barrel) and the quality is nothing short of exceptional. It's the same with every product they make.
 
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