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15mm bracket with Dovetail - information is not presented clearly

Mike Kushner

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So...like many people I bought the Quick Release Dovetail and 15mm Studio bracket only to find out that it is a "centered" format that is basically useless with all my already owned 15mm Studio accessories, like mattebox and lens support. (Photo attached)

I watched the product demo more than once before purchasing and not once does the presenter mention that this 15mm system won't fit existing 15mm studio accessories. The dovetail came with no instructions or any documents at all on their use.

I had to snap the items together during prep to figure out that they did not line up to lens center. (I've been a working cameraman for about 20 years and have owned three Arriflex packages, Varicams, Betacams, a Red One and six other professional camera packages and have never heard of a "centered" 15mm studio system...I think it might have been invented by Red...or was that the old Panavision Elaine system?...anyway in my experience 15mm Studio has always been the same format and yes, slightly offset to center)

So...when RED sells an item called 15mm Studio, in my opinion, it's misrepresented. All that is no big deal, until...

I go to return the system and am told that because I snapped together the painted metal on metal parts (under the weight of the camera) it left the tiniest bit of cosmetic wear and now the $800 in parts i purchased are subject to a $240 re-stocking fee. I don't think it's possible to click those metal parts together without showing some slight wear...it's metal on metal...of course it shows wear.

I can understand the need to have some re-stocking fees, but after an industry standard height and spacing is arbitrarily re-tooled and that's not mentioned in the product video and the parts come without documents or instructions, doesn't the company have some responsibility to accept a return without a gouging re-stocking fee?

In my opinion, yes. I bet I'm not the only one.
 

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The lightweight is a different part altogether.
A 2nd AC on their first shoot knows that 15mm lightweight and 15mm Studio are not compatible.
The 15mm Studio part is now called a "15mm Universal Mount". It looks like 15mm Studio, has the same width, originates at the bridgeplate height just like 15mm Studio...just doesn't work with existing 15mm Studio accessories that require lens centering. So in my opinion, it's not "Universal". No matter what it's called now...it mimics 15mm Studio...but doesn't fit the spec.

I wasn't the only one fooled...check out this thread: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...set-on-the-Epic&highlight=15mm+studio+doesn't
 
It all worked out. Someone cool stepped up and they were fair. Thanks for listening, restores the good vibes after frustration.
 
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