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10 Scarlet Questions from Joseph Hutson

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hey Sterling.. not likely. The 2/3" prototype is deep in the engineering lab and getting it out for a shoot is impossible because of the holiday. Lots of Epic stuff coming up this week ( which is the obvious priority as it comes first ) so we can try again next weekend :)
 
Tim Hole said:
unfortunate wording I feel!
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I agree, Cheap and Cinema Camera don't belong in the same sentence...

but I don't know of any "less expensive" 2K + Cinema cameras on the market today...

How about "revolutionary when it releases this year, compact, affordable"?

hehehe
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Nick D said:
Red Scarlet is only a "cheap" cinema Camera... It is NOT a Red One or Epic!
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We have to wait and se what the scarlet i capable of. Mean while I would skip the "only" and change "cheap" to inexpensive. :laugh:
 
What could be really cool, Jarred (not that you're taking requests or anything), is a side-by-side comparison of Scarlet footage vs. a DSLR. I'm pretty excited to see the differences in a 1920x1080 frame (scaled down for the Scarlet, of course).
 
joshua csehak said:
What could be really cool, Jarred (not that you're taking requests or anything), is a side-by-side comparison of Scarlet footage vs. a DSLR. I'm pretty excited to see the differences in a 1920x1080 frame (scaled down for the Scarlet, of course).
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I think a side-by-side of the Scarlet with the EPIC would be a bit more telling...what do you think? :thumbsup:
 
joshua csehak said:
What could be really cool, Jarred (not that you're taking requests or anything), is a side-by-side comparison of Scarlet footage vs. a DSLR. I'm pretty excited to see the differences in a 1920x1080 frame (scaled down for the Scarlet, of course).
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A better comparison would be both scaled up to 4K - that is the (near) future.

I bet we'll see the DSLR falling apart spectacularly.
 
Joseph Hutson said:
I think a side-by-side of the Scarlet with the EPIC would be a bit more telling...what do you think? :thumbsup:
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I'll have to second that. I feel like everyone pretty much knows where the DSLRs will land in a comparison.
 
I am seriously contemplating getting a Fixed Scarlet (along with a interchangeable 2/3" and S35 of course). I am just concerned about the depth of field. Hopefully this weekends test footage will alleviate my concerns.
 
It's roughly a 2.5-stop difference, maybe a bit less than that if the 2/3" Scarlet image is larger than a 2/3" image on an HD camcorder.

So just take an APS-C sensor camera like a Canon 7D or 550D, take some photos (different focal lengths, different distances) all at an f/5.6 and that's probably close to the depth of field of the fixed lens wide-open at f/2.6 on the 2/3" Scarlet for those same fields of view.
 
David Mullen ASC said:
It's roughly a 2.5-stop difference, maybe a bit less than that if the 2/3" Scarlet image is larger than a 2/3" image on an HD camcorder.

So just take an APS-C sensor camera like a Canon 7D or 550D, take some photos (different focal lengths, different distances) all at an f/5.6 and that's probably close to the depth of field of the fixed lens wide-open at f/2.6 on the 2/3" Scarlet for those same fields of view.
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You sir, and fine gentlemen like yourself are the reason I come to REDUSER.
 
David Mullen ASC said:
It's roughly a 2.5-stop difference, maybe a bit less than that if the 2/3" Scarlet image is larger than a 2/3" image on an HD camcorder.

So just take an APS-C sensor camera like a Canon 7D or 550D, take some photos (different focal lengths, different distances) all at an f/5.6 and that's probably close to the depth of field of the fixed lens wide-open at f/2.6 on the 2/3" Scarlet for those same fields of view.
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At the same focal length? As in a 25mm @ 2.6 on 2/3" is similar DoF to a 50mm @ 5.6 on APS-C?

Or at equivalent FoV? As in a 25mm @ 2.6 on 2/3" is similar in DoF to a 100mm @ 5.6 on APS-C?

I'd think the latter.
 
Jarred. Some test footage with landscapes (specifically with leaves) would be great!

I have seen the footage from the 7D and close ups look good with all of the shallow dof but when you go wide and need detail in smaller areas it really does not hold up.

I plan on getting the Scarlet for a project that would have me shooting a lot of landscapes and I'm curious how it will fair.

Thank you kindly.
 
Lee Saxon said:
At the same focal length? As in a 25mm @ 2.6 on 2/3" is similar DoF to a 50mm @ 5.6 on APS-C?

Or at equivalent FoV? As in a 25mm @ 2.6 on 2/3" is similar in DoF to a 100mm @ 5.6 on APS-C?

I'd think the latter.
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I specifically said "for the same field of views" not "on the same focal lengths".
 
Alden Anderson said:
Jarred. Some test footage with landscapes (specifically with leaves) would be great!

I have seen the footage from the 7D and close ups look good with all of the shallow dof but when you go wide and need detail in smaller areas it really does not hold up.
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That's because the H.264 1080P recording barely resolves 750 lines. The Scarlet will record 3K RAW in comparison, resolve probably about 2.8K, and make excellent downsamples to 1080P.
 
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