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New Arri/fuji Zooms

Scott Webster said:
I expect you're right Evin. But I live in hope for a 'Mitch Gross, have I got a deal for you post!' :sifone:
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You're gonna have to give us a little time on that one.
 
I'm sure that ARRI doesn't even know that yet. First they will see how the initial rollout with Alexa goes.
 
Mitch Gross said:
I'm sure that ARRI doesn't even know that yet. First they will see how the initial rollout with Alexa goes.
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Everything is in the hands of lens maker, at this case in the hands of Fujinon similar like it is with Carl Zeiss in the case of Master Primes.

Arri just giving its additional name that helps more to market and sell faster all those lenses.
 
Hey Sanjin, I didn't realize that you had a copy of the contracts between ARRI and Fujinon. Wanna point me to the paragraph that states this?
 
Evin Grant said:
Mitch, any clue when these zooms will be available without an Alexa?
I need the 45-250 yesterday ;)
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18-80 June, 45-250 July. These are roughly coinciding with Alexa deliveries.

Evin, you shoulda taken the lens we had at the DGA yesterday.
 
Mitch Gross said:
Hey Sanjin, I didn't realize that you had a copy of the contracts between ARRI and Fujinon. Wanna point me to the paragraph that states this?
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Hi Mitch,

unfortunately at the moment I "lost" somewhere that contract :laugh:

but normally you don't need to be a "rocket scientist" to find out how it would look that sort of deal in details.

At the beginning Fujinon anyway had preliminary specs that were subject to change for its PL Zooms.

So if you needed affordable (zooms) they are able to make it.

At the end all it's just matter of a deal to build any of "strategic relationships".


Michael Bravin said:
Officially they're called Alura and we'll have to check with Sanjin for the details.
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For sure Michael we get them only when they are available :laugh:
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Hi Mitch,

unfortunately at the moment I "lost" somewhere that contract :laugh:

but normally you don't need to be a "rocket scientist" to find out how it would look that sort of deal in details.

At the beginning Fujinon anyway had preliminary specs that were subject to change for its PL Zooms.

So if you needed affordable (zooms) they are able to make it.

At the end all it's just matter of a deal to build any of "strategic relationships".




For sure Michael we get them only when they are available :laugh:
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The rocket scientists know that ARRI and ZEISS worked closely in the design criteria and development as well as sales and marketing on the ARRI/ZEISS lenses, the same relationship exists with FUJINON and the ARRI/FUJINON Alura zooms. I can never understand why people dont just ask.
 
Michael Bravin said:
The rocket scientists know that ARRI and ZEISS worked closely in the design criteria and development as well as sales and marketing on the ARRI/ZEISS lenses, the same relationship exists with FUJINON and the ARRI/FUJINON Alura zooms. I can never understand why people dont just ask.
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Michael,

If you would ask on the Internet for that particular question then you'll get the following answer:

"While Arri manufactures and designs its own motion picture cameras, lenses are supplied by the Carl Zeiss group,

unlike its rival Panavision which manufactures both its own cameras and lenses for exclusive use with each other."

LINK>>>

Also it's well known that Schneider-Kreuznach was supplying 35mm and 16mm cine lenses for ARRI cameras.

ARRI do not and can't design cine lenses but in cooperation with several optical companies (Schneider-Kreuznach [past], Carl Zeiss [current], Fujinon [current])

ARRI made specified requests to the optical companies that were doing cine lens optical and mechanical design.

Btw, also you claimed a couple months ago that so called Mystery Primes can't be named Leica, etc...,

but now we know that thy have RED dot logo with Leica name on or something similar like my new avatar.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
If you would ask on the Internet for that particular question then you'll get the following answer:
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The problem is that you believe everything posted on the internet.
 
Mitch Gross said:
The problem is that you believe everything posted on the internet.
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Mitch,

I would say it's just the opposite:

Because you believe that "I believe everything posted on the internet".

That could be a real problem here but not me.
 
I never thought I would be able to add some important facts on these lenses that have not already been posted by the likes of Matt and Steve, but here's the dirt I was given right from the competing booths. Arri/Fuginon is well priced because the deal was Arri wanted to have lenses in that market price-point. To get it, their lens will not go to 5K, whereas the Fuginon does. Further, although the glass is good, according to my source, it doesn't match the Fuginon at four times the price. And of course the Fuginon is T2. This is why Fuginon agreed to co-op with ARRI, to produce a very good, but not as good, as the Rolls Royce. So what about Angenieux you ask? Angenieux is only 4K as well, but they are working on a modification that they hope to have out within the next 60 days. Along with the 5K upgrade, there is a new collar design for the 24-290. (This inut is just a token of my appreciation of all the info so many of you have showed to all use other Redusers.)
 
Forgot something. I was told the Fuginon comes in at 50 lbs!!
 
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