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November 30th Announcement Feedback

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Quentin_B said:
Thanks Peter.
I don't know why I forgot this. I also don't know why I included the primes in a question about servo zooms. Must be because it's 4 am here.. I need to get over the excitement and get to bed....:blink: :Yawn:

I guess I wanted to know if we had rocker control zoom from a handle like on a B4 mount broadcast lens. And if there was a servo planned to gear into those Primes for autofocus and iris control (possibly attached to the gunner if that is one of it's functions)

Would be nice to get the low down on the gunner too.
And a little picture to swoon over of the complete Scarlet fixed package as it has been announced.

I can't believe that Red have included the redmote in the fixed lens package, I was so sure from their statements that it would be a basic package, just enough to get you shooting, that they would just stick in the handle for control. Very generous if you ask me...

When I saw the Redmote Pro listed (before the pictures of it appeared) I was sure that the rice difference was because it had a live preview monitoring facility built in. I guess it still could be. No comments on that so far from RED. Seems like a big step in price to just add a control dial for focus pulling(though I'm sure there's more to it than that, I'm too tired to go compare the pro to the standard redmotes in the pictures).
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no problem

no one at red has told us yet how the fixed lens package will use batteries but the battery module and side handle are both not part of the package.

The redmote is cheaper so they added that (i think its better that way), so thats why no side handle but we are still just waiting for more info.

the redmote pro appears to have a dial of some sort which I am guessing looks like it could be used as a follow focus for electronic lenses. This would be huge because the redmote is wireless and an AC could pull focus without even being next to the camera itself. If my guess is correct I would think that alone would be enough for the price increase but I am sure more features than that are included
 
Darren Orange said:
Jarred,

Can you please remove the "BOMB" from the side of the EVF. I don't want to even deal with the airports with something labeled "Bomb" on the side of it. AIRPORTS and the word "BOMB" don't mix. Sorry but it will certainly drive a lot of people nuts.
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LOL Good suggestion. Just imagine the words EPIC, BOMB, and something that almost spells REMOTE. Those words just don't belong together, especially at an airport. And mounting them onto something that doesn't look like a traditional camera doesnt help either :).
 
Yannick Sadler said:
Like someone who would indeed try to pass through with a real bomb would actually label it :001_tongue: But I totally agree, airport security and customs agents have no sense of humor whatsoever. So I agree with Darren.
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true, I got swarmed by security on my last trip because I had a multi hex wrench tool that looked like a pocket knife on x ray. They ended up letting me go with my tool. I would under stand if it was phillips or flat head but who holds up a plane with a hex wrench
 
Peter Osinski said:
redmote - 550
side cf module - 500
2.8" screen - 800

thats all 1850 together

then it says redvolt battery. I used to be under the impression you needed the module adapter and the battery module to use batteries if you didn't have the side handle. It seems they have given you the option of putting a redvolt right into the brain. Of course I could be wrong.

That being said 4750 - 1850 =2900 for the cost of a brain+awesome zoom lens + battery

An awesome deal.

the cinema is 2750 which if you add the same accessories (1850) is 4600 and that is before the cost of the battery module (1000 with 2 batts) which brins it to 5600 and the module adapter (300) which brings it to 5900 and then of course a lens (at least 1000 for a good zoom)

6900 for a full functioning camera before media including power with the option of interchangeable lenses rather than 4750 for the fixed.

In my mind the cinema version at this price with these specs allows you more flexibility for adding batteries, of course lenses, and other modules. You are paying for options here.

Also the 4750 fixed is a kit. I am sure they knocked the price down for the kit compared to building your own camera from scratch
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Thanks for writing that out Peter!!

I'll have to give this a lot of thought. There's a huge price difference just to be able to switch lenses, which is something I don't think I could live without.
I have lenses, so is it correct to say that $6000 is the minimum price to have a working camera, nothing in that list can be left out? (excluding CF cards for right now).
 
Jarred Land said:
In cold situations (the kinda cold people really shouldn't be in :) ) the Display and the batteries seem to always go first... You can always keep batteries warm in a pack but the EVF was a hard one to keep warm.. so we added a heater :)
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simply awesome...thank you !!:emote_happyhappy:
 
Ben DiAnna said:
Thanks for writing that out Peter!!

I'll have to give this a lot of thought. There's a huge price difference just to be able to switch lenses, which is something I don't think I could live without.
I have lenses, so is it correct to say that $6000 is the minimum price to have a working camera, nothing in that list can be left out? (excluding CF cards for right now).
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I am changing my post, wait like 2 min and look to the end of this page for a new one
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
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How do you connect the bundled battery of the Fixed Kit?

I guess we'd have to buy a handle or module for that.
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I got it! It's a wireless battery! Remote power! :smile:

With all the extraordinary things that RED is putting up I would be only half-surprised...
 
Jerrod Cordell said:
When do you think we'll be able to see some footage from the mini-RED Primes. I'd love to see how they compare to the Zeiss DigiPrimes and also the RPPs.
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Ditto - I just got my first Zeiss prime this month and I absolutely love it, but I'm not committing to any more until I see the Mini Primes in action!
 
GPS module

GPS module

The post from Jarred stated:

"3-axis internal motion sensor and GPS latitude / longitude data"
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...the 3-axis accelerometer data is captured each frame, so we can extract the camera's 3D orientation from that, and
this is complemented by the GPS data which acts as a time / location reference.
 
Yannick Sadler said:
I got it! It's a wireless battery! Remote power! :smile:

With all the extraordinary things that RED is putting up I would be only half-surprised...
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Well, if u walk into walmart/brookstone you will notice lots of charging pads for sale that charge devices by induction... which is essentially wireless :)


I'm just pumped that I could get a fixed scarlet and then sell the brain/lens down the road but keep the modules. Easy way to switch to interchangeable.
 
Stuart English said:
...the 3-axis accelerometer data is captured each frame, so we can extract the camera's 3D orientation from that, and
this is complemented by the GPS data which acts as a time / location reference.
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Can you confirm that it include a compass for absolute heading vs relative heading only if a compass is not present.
 
I have been trying to plan costs for the cinema for months, here is what I have as of now for what I want and what I can tell might be necessary

2/3" Cinema Brain - $2750
Side CF Module - $500
RedMote - $550
Scarlet Module Adapter - $300
Battery Module + 2 Batts - $1000
ikan 5.6" HD monitor kit - $800

all together that comes to $5720. But hold on

You can find good zooms and have them converted to pl via an adapter for 1500 to get you started with a lens (total $7720)

bare minimum you need a 16GB CF Card $500 (total $8220)

There you are good to shoot and you have a battery option that has more options than the side handle would

But if you get the bundle of cards you save 600 in the longrun so I would say get the bundle of 4 for a total of $9120

And about the monitor. It is a 5.6" HD monitor you can run off the brains HDMI source. I think a bigger monitor is important because of focusing with such Hi-res cameras. Also this kit comes with everything you need to power and mount your monitor to your camera
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You could do a whole lot with the fixed lens cam which I see as being great as a prosumer gig for 4750 (cheaper than an hpx) or even as a studio b cam.

Of course you could pimp it out but I would buy a cinema model and pimp that out before ever getting the fixed.

For example, with the side handle+battery+sidecfmodule+miniprime/cmountlens+1cf card you already have a smaller camera to use as a crash or POV cam than you could with fixed

also, you could use professional lenses like ultra primes from arri or maybe even miniprimes (cant wait to see quality) and turn this thing into a studio production monster.

You will never be able to increase the speed of the fixed lens zoom, but if you need faster lenses than you currently have, and they are in existence, you will at least in theory have the option to buy or rent them for your cam (if not in financial reality)
 
I have mentioned certain monitoring options in my different posts and I just want to say for the record that I am not trying to push one option over the other just that is what I found to fit my budget. I am sure the 2.8" screen is awesome, but I need something larger, and due to how ancient the lenses I use will be touch focus is not even an option for me.

thanks

....though if I get some extra dough the 5"LCD with a lemo connection will be much more appetizing than a loosey goosey hdmi connection for run and gun
 
Guys just wanted to know... do Red One owners get first option when it comes buying Scarlet?
 
I couldn't be more pleased with the time table for release, I was actually expecting winter next year. And the price, you all had me scared last month, I'm dancing in circles here.

Okey now the questions.

Touch LCD screen... is there a way to run that detached from the main body of the camera, either wired or wirelessly?

Removable fan tray with changeable cleanable filters... What size, how many does it hold, and how the heck did you fit that in there?

Aluminum or Magnesium... errm what's the difference, is this just style or is there a purpose? (Don't look at me like that, all the video camera's I've ever used have been plastic =)

I can't wait to get my hands on the full information of all the modules so I can start planning my package. I haven't wanted to build something this bad sense I was 6, forget the other camera makers, Red is poised to beat the snot out of LEGO!

Great job people.
 
You could do a whole lot with the fixed lens cam which I see as being great as a prosumer gig for 4750 (cheaper than an hpx) or even as a studio b cam.

Of course you could pimp it out but I would buy a cinema model and pimp that out before ever getting the fixed.
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Ultimately I would like to have one of each, a fixed and a cinema. They would complement each other nicely.
 
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