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November 30th Announcement Feedback

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Stephen Strangways said:
At the risk of temporarily veering off-topic...

Considering that Final Cut still insists that perfectly good MXF-wrapped footage has to be re-wrapped into Quicktime wrappers, which takes time, doubles your storage space requirements, and prevents you from playing those files on a computer that doesn't have Final Cut installed... I think it's safe to say that Apple's current policy is to only support Quicktime MOVs, and make anyone shooting AVIs, MXFs, or R3Ds jump through extra hoops.
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Yep... they have really disappointed me lately. They stopped focusing on the professionals who made them what they were and put their attention on the average consumer. Thankfully, RED hasn't fallen for this. I will drink a beer to that! :cheers2:
 
Brent J. Craig said:
-with the addition of a compass/accelerometer chip - the camera could tag every frame with the direction the lens is pointing and the tilt angle (crucial for CGI work).
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I highly doubt that the precision would be enough for VFX matchmaking needs for final compositing. However, data stream may be OK for realtime rough 3D composite preview while shooting on-set.
 
REDRAY Pro questions...

REDRAY Pro questions...

Jarred,
Jarred Land said:
* Optional media and local link encryption
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Jarred Land said:
* 4 x USB-2 ports
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Are you referring to 802.1AE MAC (link layer) encryption (like what's found on Cisco's Nexus 7000 data center switches), or just classic IPSec? Also, will PKI tokens or smartcard readers be supported via USB? I could see movie studios wanting this feature, especially if mainstream cinema deployments are one of your target markets. Imagine sending a first-run film via DVD through FedEx, but having the disc be worthless unless the recipient holds a valid Fox/Paramount/Universal issued PKI token. I'm sure you guys are thinking along these lines, yes?

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* Decode .RRD (RED RAY Distribution format) 4:4:4 files up to 4K @ 30 fps
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Any chance of choosing a file extension type that does not conflict with Tobi Oetiker's RRDtool Round Robin Database files? How about RRT (RedRay Transport)? And, no, I didn't check to see if 'RRT' was being used by anything mainstream...

Cheers,

-ian
 
I second the question about servo controlled zoom. Is this there or a currently planned option on the fixed or any of the REDmini primes?
 
Will RED be making mini-zooms to accompany mini primes? I thought I was done buying lenses, but these suckers are re-igniting my inner lens junkie.

So much good stuff happening, it will take time to absorb it all.

Can you set an EPIC next to the Nikon and the SCARLET? Or are the brain boxes all the same size? Will there be size/weight differences between SCARLET and EPIC, assuming no modules?

This is the most innovative imaging company on the planet, bar none.
 
Peter Osinski said:
david, are there other lenses made with a mini pl mount that you know of?

if so when buying my 2 angenieux arri mount zooms would it be possible just to get them converted to mini pl and save myself the trouble of 2 mounts when I can afford the mini primes?
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The mini-PL style RED mount is unique to Scarlet as far as I know. Not to say there won't be after market lenses for it within a year or so. Modified versions of some B4 HD lenses from Fuji, Canon, and Angenieux with rear optical elements suited for a single focal plane sensor camera would be pretty easy and quick to design for the Scarlet market.

There is an ARRI B mount to C-mount adapter available from Chambless cine that might serve as an alternative to a more expensive PL conversion for 16m lenses. I am considering this route vs PL conversions for a couple of my lenses.
 
Also how about that lovely OLED display on the lens design you showed us last time round. Is that coming across the the fixed or REDmini's?
 
David Rasberry said:
There is an ARRI B mount to C-mount adapter available from Chambless cine that might serve as an alternative to a more expensive PL conversion for 16m lenses.
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I plan on buying a an adapter ring from whitehouseaudiovisual.com for 400 for each of the 2 zooms I plan on buying which are the 12-240 and 9.5-57. They are very big lenses and I want a robust mount.
 
Not to dash anyone's hopes but the sort of GPS receiver I would expect on the scarlet/epic is not going to be per-frame. Most GPS receivers are about 5fps. Not that it really matters since you probably won't move outside of the receiver noise in one second anyway.
 
Yannick Sadler said:
I highly doubt that the precision would be enough for VFX matchmaking needs for final compositing. However, data stream may be OK for realtime rough 3D composite preview while shooting on-set.
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I use my iPhone to measure the camera tilt angle all the time for high-end VFX on big budget jobs. When properly calibrated it is just as accurate as my $650 digital inclinometer.

A built-in accelerometer would be even more accurate by removing the variable of "was the measuring device positioned in exactly the same way for each measurement."

As far as WAAS-augmented GPS, surveyors use it to align bridges and buildings within millimeters. If your FX guys can't adapt to small errors like that then you are using the wrong FX guys.
 
Quentin_B said:
I second the question about servo controlled zoom. Is this there or a currently planned option on the fixed or any of the REDmini primes?
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I am 99.9% sure the fixed lens is already servo controlled. You have the option of controlling the ring electronically, and set it to either zoom, focus or iris. I assume when one thing is set you control the others through the redmote or handle

edit: also the mini-primes will be totally manual, Jarred already said this
 
Peter Osinski said:
I plan on buying a an adapter ring from whitehouseaudiovisual.com for 400 for each of the 2 zooms I plan on buying which are the 12-240 and 9.5-57. They are very big lenses and I want a robust mount.
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I will probably wind up doing the same for my Cooke 9-50 and Angie 12-240. Most of the other lenses I have are C-mount anyway. But if you could make a screw on C to mini-red bayonet adapter it would make a c-mount zoom a viable companion to the mini-primes.
 
Brent J. Craig said:
As far as WAAS-augmented GPS, surveyors use it to align bridges and buildings within millimeters. If your FX guys can't adapt to small errors like that then you are using the wrong FX guys.
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I've got my doubts. The antennas and time frames for surveyors to get sufficiently accurate measurements on a camera scale aren't at 48fps.

I've seen the GPS units they use and they are larger than an epic.

I predict 1m accuracy at 10fps.
 
So why can't the Interchangeable Scarlet be offered in the same package as the Fixed? Has this been answered before?

Why does the camera with no lens work out to cost more than the one that comes with a lens? Is there a list that compares the fixed and interchangeable prices differences? First off I'm going to guess the lens isn't the only difference.

Can somebody smarter than me clear this up?

(BTW this is NOT a complaint, I'm very pleased with the announcement)
 
Peter Osinski said:
I am 99.9% sure the fixed lens is already servo controlled. You have the option of controlling the ring electronically, and set it to either zoom, focus or iris. I assume when one thing is set you control the others through the redmote or handle
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correcto... and you can use those rings on the normal REDMOTE, Side Handle or the REDMOTE PRO to handle either of the rings (Z,I,F) as well.
 
All truly superb news.
Jarred: for those of us with existing 2/3" glass who'd like to have the option to occasionally use the baby Scarlet for ENG/EFP style work, will there be a way to mount B4 lenses? Admittedly the image quality is inferior to primes, but there are plenty of times where I use the full 18x range of a B4 zoom (or even 36x with extender).

I'll take you up on the offer to see the new lenses on a projector... will be in CA soon & will call about that. Thanks for all the hard work, guys!
 
Quentin_B said:
Also how about that lovely OLED display on the lens design you showed us last time round. Is that coming across the the fixed or REDmini's?
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there has been no mention of it or sign of that on either fixed lens or mini primes, and if it was going to be I think they would have told us today.

I think the oled you are referring to is only going to be on the RED Electronic lenses which I dont know if they have said when they are coming out and I am pretty sure will be for s35mm or ff35mm sensors
 
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