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Robert Horwell

Robert Horwell

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Sorry, distasteful,,,,,would never want that.
 
FYI pretty much all of these violate Red's trademark. Nothing keeping you from buying or selling but if you operate a cinema or video related business with "Red" in the title expect to receive some letters from lawyers.

Just looking out.
 
Evin Grant said:
FYI pretty much all of these violate Red's trademark. Nothing keeping you from buying or selling but if you operate a cinema or video related business with "Red" in the title expect to receive some letters from lawyers.

Just looking out.
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Really evin?..so you couldn't offer services to hire cameras with the name Red in the title, even if the website wasn't a registered company? Anyone else know anything about this, i bought these a couple of years ago when i was trying to think of a name for a website to rent my camera from.:confused1:
 
Robert Horwell said:
Really evin?..so you couldn't offer services to hire cameras with the name Red in the title, even if the website wasn't a registered company? Anyone else know anything about this, i bought these a couple of years ago when i was trying to think of a name for a website to rent my camera from.:confused1:
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You can do whatever you want, but Red has the right to protect it's brand and even if you won in court, consider the cost to your relationship (with Red) and your pocketbook after legal proceedings.

I can tell you this every entity that has used Red in it's name on this board has eventually changed it.
 
Evin Grant said:
You can do whatever you want, but Red has the right to protect it's brand and even if you won in court, consider the cost to your relationship (with Red) and your pocketbook after legal proceedings.

I can tell you this every entity that has used Red in it's name on this board has eventually changed it.
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Guys it was not my intention to to upset anyone, i really was not aware of this, a bit naive of me maybe. Alls well that ends well. :laugh:
 
Robert Horwell said:
Guys it was not my intention to to upset anyone, i really was not aware of this, a bit naive of me maybe. Alls well that ends well. :laugh:
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I never said you did, I just want people to be aware. I agree, no harm no foul.
 
As odd as it may seem, Red actually has the obligation to protect its trademark. Not defending a trademark allows it to become generic in the eyes of the courts.

Beyond that, it gets kind of complicated by nuance. "Red" is, after all, a word, and was long before it was the name of a camera company. But if Red aggressively protects its trademark (and has more money to do that than you do to defend) then the nuances become moot. It would be helpful if Red would post a statement of their position on naming.
 
Thanks for the info guys.
 
So, as Tasteless as I find the idea of purchasing domain names and then selling them afterward, the idea that RED Digital Cinema has a "corner" on the usage of the word RED in a Company's name is something I think you should actually question an attorney about.

And, not just your friend who happens to be an attorney.

Now, if I started a company called Red Rocket Rentals, I think that RED might have a problem coming after me - depending on my branding and my logo and a multitude of other issues. For any and all of their claims, I could have named the company after the South Park episode.

Also, if the company rents other cameras besides the REDone, they'll have a hell of a time coming through and saying that no one can have a rental company with RED in the name - especially because the word RED has been used for centuries before the conception of their particular company.

The word describing the color brings to mind hundreds of potential strings of thought, from the color to emotions to temperatures. Which is probably why Red Digital Cinema used the name in their creation of their company. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that it was "The Red Digital Cinema Camera Company." The Idea that they can claim sole ownership of the word RED also implies that they can claim DIGITAL, CINEMA, and CAMERA.

Now, if you were infringing on their trademark and using their logo - then you'd find yourself in a whole different mess.

But, I don't think the word RED would get you in Trouble. It may get you some nasty letters, but if you haven't infringed on their "trademark" or logo, they would MOST LIKELY lose their case and have to pay damages that have been brought against you.

These are just thoughts as I was engaged in a similar case several years back with a different product. The company who sued was found to have no grounds, and was forced to pay damages and court costs.

But, Like I Said - you would want to talk to an established attorney who handles trademark infringement cases.
 
You are partly right Chris, but mostly incorrect. I don't think Red is going to call out "Red's 50's Diner" or "Redbook magazine" or anything that has the word Red in it. But, there were several companies and groups such as the "RedNinjas" who are now the "4k Ninjas".
Using the company name Red in a reference to the company in this way in an infringement.
 
Cool, I shall register the trademarks "GREEN" and "BLUE".

So would I not be allowed to call the Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1 a red camera?

Nowadays, on the internet, everybody seems to be a lawyer :)
 
as long as your not selling the product..(aka.. buying a bunch of reds and selling them)
having a rental company with the direct name of the company of whom you have rightfully purchased the product from,, aka REDRENTALS.com should be ok...
as there are many sites.. rentatoyota, hummerrentals.com NIKONRENTALS.COM

Im not a lawyer.. but from what I have been told from lawyers,
it is perfectly legal as long as your not claiming to be the actual manufacturer
 
I registered www.4k.com.au domain a wile back, but I haven't been using it as much as it could be used. I don't think I will retire after selling it, but if someone has a good use for it, I am open to offers (barter included). :jacked:
 
Zak, it's really not about what you may be able to do in court, it's weather you can afford to go to court at all. Also there seem to be distinctions between a company name that relates to a product and one that is another company. In this instance it's both, Red is the Co. and Red 1 is the product. You may however be able to use Scarletrentals.com, as it refers to a specific product and not a Co. That's why "Mac Mall" is kosher but Apple Mall wouldn't be.
 
M Taylor said:
How about RED owner/operators using their camera serial number as a reel/hire site? ie. www.red666.com, www.red2067.com. And maybe printing it on crew t-shirts?
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im not big on the type of camera used on crew tee's..
the camera is so minor to the production of a film.. its just another tool..
You dont see the model of microphone used to record sound..

but I digress..
 
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Zakaree Sandberg said:
im not big on the type of camera used on crew tee's..
the camera is so miner to the production of a film.. its just another tool..
You dont see the model of microphone used to record sound..

but I digress..
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And really, it gets a little old when people are saying "damn that camera shoots great pictures."

And my guitar plays cool solos too.
 
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