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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Remind me not to rent anything to this guy :-)

hi all,
as a professional grip if i was on his set i would do everything in my power to talk him out of that type of filmmaking.
if he still decided to go ahead i would quit and walk on the spot.

no film is worth a persons life.

cheers,
ian
 
I believe also that this is in deed the art of creativity and one can achieve only what one limits himself to, speaking of which I'm putting together a handheld system for the RPZ 18-85, basically just a top handle form Optitek original support, pretty cool, and the no don't do it are many, but I care for the shots I can get, so I ignore them I brake it, I get an other one or not :(, but I will get the shots!
 
ian dart said:
hi all,
as a professional grip if i was on his set i would do everything in my power to talk him out of that type of filmmaking.
if he still decided to go ahead i would quit and walk on the spot.

no film is worth a persons life.

cheers,
ian
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Sorry but on my set you would do what I say, and I don't like to heaar sorry I can't do that, it just does not work for me!

If instead you are on Neveldine's set, then I know for fact that you will do what He says and you will not walk out of his set, just wait for his next gigs to understand fully why, after He will enjoy the absurd success of "GAMER" then will talk.
 
hi all,

i spend half my life on set making sure things i do wont harm or kill people.

after things go horribly wrong i dont want to spend months or years in court being cross examined why i never spoke up and tried to stop it.
feel free to kill or maim yourself any way you like,
but i will NOT be there to pick up the pieces.

there are plenty of ways to hurt yourself accidently in this business without doing it on purpose.

cheers
ian
ps ketch, on my set if i decide something is unsafe then its not done.

if my advice is ignored then i walk.

god himself cant overide that rule.........
 
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KETCH ROSSI said:
Sorry but on my set you would do what I say, and I don't like to heaar sorry I can't do that, it just does not work for me!

If instead you are on Neveldine's set, then I know for fact that you will do what He says and you will not walk out of his set, just wait for his next gigs to understand fully why, after He will enjoy the absurd success of "GAMER" then will talk.
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I don't think the director is nearly as powerful as you intimate. Directors, tend to have to negotiate, like everyone else. Sure they may have clout but in the end the the special interests (ie. department heads along with the union reps) tend to drive the conversation. Some will argue risking life and limb for a shot is actually lazy filmmaking. It simply demonstrates the lack of creativity to find a sensible/workable solution. Let's not forget this business is about the illusion of risk.
 
I remember the day they where there, skating around the parking-lot, with the prototype cameras and having loadsa fun. They certainly did go fast. Really looking forwards to seeing Gamera asap. Anyone up for some baby-sitting?

Graeme
 
Adil Lahoulou said:
I don't think the director is nearly as powerful as you intimate. Directors, tend to have to negotiate, like everyone else. Sure they may have clout but in the end the the special interests (ie. department heads along with the union reps) tend to drive the conversation. Some will argue risking life and limb for a shot is actually lazy filmmaking. It simply demonstrates the lack of creativity to find a sensible/workable solution. Let's not forget this business is about the illusion of risk.
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It sure depends on the director, I know several Directors which do have all the power and for good reasons, I have the power because I chose to stay independent no mater what.

It is absolutely underlined that no risk to any one's life should ever be taken, not on set or elsewhere, PERIOD!!

You missed understood my points, or I miss explained my self, and creativity, it is absolutely at the top of my list, as it is for many of us with no STUDIO budget, and just because you spend minutes instead of hours in taking a solution for a shot, it does not mean you are lazy, it means you have good creativity and will to get the shot done, off course a grip guy will want to grip everything, that is is job.
 
im with ketch on this.. ketch if you ever need a crazy operator.. ill do it.

Im not a vag when it comes to crazy shit.

douse me in gasoline light me and the camera on fire, i dont care.. just have an extinguisher near by
 
Zakaree Sandberg said:
im with ketch on this.. ketch if you ever need a crazy operator.. ill do it.

Im not a vag when it comes to crazy shit.

douse me in gasoline light me and the camera on fire, i dont care.. just have an extinguisher near by
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Got to love your attitude Zakaree, and as I'll start shooting soon, will might need just an operator with your attitude :)


BTW: Respect among the set is a necessity, and I never or would I ever disrespect any one working with me or for me, no matter what position they occupy, every one that has worked or will work with me, they know from the very beginning what they are getting in to working with a crazy Italian like me :) so if they stay they got to be on the program.
 
Curran Giddens said:
another pic. of course these shots don't show him going 50, but I remember the thread said he did at one point.
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Been there done that. Unfortunately not with a Red.

50mph with hockey skates is pretty much bullshit though, unless he flipped the rockers to make all wheels flat against the ground which I believe 90% of hockey skates don't have (not sure though).
 
The wheels look pretty flat, so they don't look like typical inline hockey skates. Or at least they have nowhere near the rocker effect that my skates do. Rockering of inlines for hockey is usually done with a combination of an arched rocker system and using larger wheels in the middle to create the amount of rocker effect you want.
 
If we don't take risks, how can we possibly advance our art? Our job as filmmakers is to push the boundaries, to try new and exciting things that keep audiences coming back time and time again. I know it's only rollerblades, but it's that kind of clever thinking that will spur on more things later down the line.

If the good lord had intended for us to walk, he would not have invented roller skates.
 
Everyone has their own comfort limit in terms of risk taking. I can say that I'm nowhere near the daredevil I used to be now that I have kids. One reason is I feel that I need to set a good example now that they're getting old enough to notice what I do and also because I want to be there for them as long as I can rather than being dead or a vegetable.

I appreciate anyone willing to take risks for the sake of their art, passion or creative spirit. But on any of my sets, the risk factor stops just short of that line that my insurance coverage won't cross. I also have a keen eye when it comes to spotting human stupidity about to go wrong. I've been around heavy construction and demolition all my life, I can usually smell it in the air when someone is about to f**k up. ...Oh, the stories I can tell.
 
hi all,

a professional filmmaker respects himself and those around him.

if you are too lazy and cheap to do it the right way then you should be in another business.

hey zakaree, let me know when your funeral is and i will write something nice in your memory on your blogsite.

cheers
ian
 
ian dart said:
hi all,

i spend half my life on set making sure things i do wont harm or kill people.

after things go horribly wrong i dont want to spend months or years in court being cross examined why i never spoke up and tried to stop it.
feel free to kill or maim yourself any way you like,
but i will NOT be there to pick up the pieces.

there are plenty of ways to hurt yourself accidently in this business without doing it on purpose.

cheers
ian
ps ketch, on my set if i decide something is unsafe then its not done.

if my advice is ignored then i walk.

god himself cant overide that rule.........
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Ian, if I'm ever shooting a movie in Melbourne, I want you on my set. Really. :beer:
 
hi jaime,

if you ever come to melbourne i would consider it a privelege
to work with you.

i would also give you a good price on my grip services.........

kind regards,
ian

seriously guys be careful out there. a film is NOT worth your life.
things can turn to shit really fast if you are doing the wrong thing.
I HAVE RULES BECAUSE.....
i dont want the police calling on my family and telling them i was just killed because i was to lazy to safety a 5k hmi.
IAN
 
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Jaime Vallés said:
Ian, if I'm ever shooting a movie in Melbourne, I want you on my set. Really. :beer:
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I feel the same way.

Always take the time to do it right and keep everyone safe.
 
Andy Jarisz said:
If we don't take risks, how can we possibly advance our art? Our job as filmmakers is to push the boundaries, to try new and exciting things that keep audiences coming back time and time again. I know it's only rollerblades, but it's that kind of clever thinking that will spur on more things later down the line.
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Yeah, but there's a slippery slope involved here that doesn't just apply to film making, it applies to pretty much any sort of industry.
It's fine if you want to cut the corners on your own safety, the problem is when people in charge think it's also fine to compromize their workers safety on their behalf.

Take Mr Rossi's position: Basically "If you don't like what I tell you to do, there is no place for you on one of my productions."

You don't get out of it that easy.

First of all that person may have passed on other, safer, jobs to be on your set. If he then finds that you are expecting him to behave dangerously, (or illegally or immorally) for your sole benefit, and he wants no part of that, he will then be out of pocket, and have grounds for complaint.

It's really no different from not telling an actress that she has to appear nude in your production until she is on the set.

The same thing can happen with lighting guys who try to go out of their way to be seen to be efficient and "seamless" as far as the producer/director is concerned. They are the ones who make their assistants change lightbulbs while the power is still on and wind up electrocuting them.

We have labor unions because 19th century cola mine owners thought it was just fine to send children down into the pits with no safety equipment, because there was no shortage of replacements.:emote_hippie:
 
Zakaree Sandberg said:
im with ketch on this.. ketch if you ever need a crazy operator.. ill do it.

Im not a vag when it comes to crazy shit.

douse me in gasoline light me and the camera on fire, i dont care.. just have an extinguisher near by
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Remind me not to rent anything to you either:nono::tongue_smilie:
 
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