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What is the best way to brighten up a dark shoot

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Stefan Ringel

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Hi,

I've got very dark footage. Red 4K. I edit the footage in Adobe Premiere.
I change the ISO, the Exposure, brightness and contrast. Take a look at the image:

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I want to know whats the best way to brighten up the image.
And is there a way to reduce the "digital grain".
At the end I want to release the film in 2K (1080p).
 
yes, its to far. i just want to show it. Its a whole scene. And there are more scenes that are as dark as this one. On the control monitor it was a little brighter... so. It was the first RED shoot. I think something between the second and third pic is okay. (more the second pic). The grain sucks, but in motion its different. some people will hate it, other will ignore the grain after a short time, i think. i hope so.
 
Yousuf Abbasi said:
Just curious, what T-stop did you shoot the scene in?
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Zeiss HS Distagon T 1.3 (no zoom lenses. 18, 25, 35, 50, 65 mm, ... etc)

thank for the tip with the
"The Neat Video noise reduction plug".
I will try that. The examples on their website looks very good.
 
In addition to the neatvideo NR, try doubling, or tripling your footage in layers and set the blend mode setting to "Add".
This is how I know to explain this in After Effects- hope it makes sense...
 
Wow, you must have been shooting in the absolute dark. What shutter speed?

Are you processing with build 20? Much better noise.

Stefan Ringel said:
Zeiss HS Distagon T 1.3 (no zoom lenses. 18, 25, 35, 50, 65 mm, ... etc)

thank for the tip with the
"The Neat Video noise reduction plug".
I will try that. The examples on their website looks very good.
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Have you tried to increase the ISO to something higher than 500? You might try that first without the exposure, brightness, contrast settings and see how it looks. Then, you might try the Neat Video plugin, which does wonders at a price. Jim beat me to my next thought, have you tried the new color science?
 
I tried to increase the ISO... its very similar. A bit better than exposure.
not "build 20".because i work with WinXP, Premiere plugin.. lates version 1.7.
"new color science" ? nope. whats that?
Don't know the shutter speed.

And no... we did not shoot in absolute dark. We had one 2,5 kW, many 250 W, 2 Kinoflows, etc...
We turned the ähm... whats the english word "diaphragm" (german: Blende) down... because
of Depth of field. We have to shoot "dark" on the other way with "open diaphragm" there would
be 1mm sharp and the rest would be out of focus.
 
u might want to try the "remove grain" effect in After Effects. It MIGHT help. I remember i used to shoot with the Redrock M2 and without a good monitor sometimes i would foget to turn on the M2 so would have crazy grain from the groundglass. Playing and fine tuning that effect actually worked. yes my image was not pristine however passable.
 
Rendition Films said:
u might want to try the "remove grain" effect in After Effects. It MIGHT help. I remember i used to shoot with the Redrock M2 and without a good monitor sometimes i would foget to turn on the M2 so would have crazy grain from the groundglass. Playing and fine tuning that effect actually worked. yes my image was not pristine however passable.
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I used the remove grain filter on some shots in AE with great success as well. Also, if csetting is currently REC709 on that shot you might want to try REDspace. That may lift the whole shot substantially.
 
Try opening this in Redcine, set Color space to Camera RGB and Gamma Space to RedLOG. Next try increasing the ISO but not to the point where it falls apart. Resize to what ever the final resolution is and export as QT or DPX 10-bit, then import into AE. Use Synthetic Aperture, pull up the highlights first, then bring back down the shadows till you have pure blacks. Now open up the gammas a bit until you have some detail in them, then pull back down the blacks. Keep pulling up the highlights and gammas and crushing back down the blacks and see what you get. What your going for is some detail with out noise, and your going to end up with a lot of contrast.

Afterwards, add some noise reduction/de-grain filtering. Worth a try.
 
do i have to render my clip from red cine to use that plugin first?
 
Camilo said:
do i have to render my clip from red cine to use that plugin first?
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Yes, you have to transcode or render that clip out to work with it.
 
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