Local 695's RED Day

[Andrew Walker]

I just got an email from my Local saying that they are going to have a little RED Day in Burbank. Here's what they are going to cover. Of course this is only available to Local 695 members. But I'm sure there are a couple of you on here.

The following topics will be covered:

1) Intro: RED, RED ONE, 4K, REDCODE RAW
2) Demo Reel 1
3) Basic Operation: Including - Resolution options, Framerates, Exposure, Monitoring, Media options (REDDRIVE, REDFLASH, CF 8/16GB, Loading Formatting Media, Recording Modes, Actual Recording of Clips, Playback off Camera.
4) Sound: Setup & Audio Workflow
5) Video Assist: setups with RED, need for down converter if composite video is desired, Timecode / Sync needs. Also, RED RAY and QTakeHD.
6) Q & A

7) Break

8) Data Capture: Transferring of data, On-set workflow, Media used, LUTs, Backup Drives, archival options. REDCINE, REDRushes, RED Alert!, RED ROCKET, 3rd party tools (R3D Manager, Shotput, Clip Finder, Monkey Extract, Crimson, etc.)
9) Follow up Education
10) Future of RED: (EPIC, SCARLET)
11) Demo Reel 2
12) Final Q & A

 

[Brandon Fraley]

forgive the stupid question, but what the Local 695? I mean I know it's the union, but why is it called the Local 695?

 

[Andrew Walker]

forgive the stupid question, but what the Local 695? I mean I know it's the union, but why is it called the Local 695?

I think it has something to do with the area, like being out on the west coast and a number picked out of a hat. But they do try and keep it in relation to other locals. Like camera is Local 600, editors Local 700 and grips are Local 80. So I'm not really sure how these numbers get assigned. BTW Local 695 is Production Sound along with Studio Projectionist. 695 also holds the classification for video playback and data storage/backup.

 

[Brandon Fraley]

yeah, I've heard Local 600 before. I guess the confusing part whether there are Local 600s in other cities? Or is the number different? Then is it no longer "local"?

Anyway, sorry to hijack your thread, I was just curious.

I guess members will have to tell us how it went?

 

[M Most]

yeah, I've heard Local 600 before. I guess the confusing part whether there are Local 600s in other cities? Or is the number different? Then is it no longer "local"?

Local 600 (Camera Guild) and Local 700 (Editors Guild) are "national locals" that were formed a number of years ago through the merger of the East and West Coast locals for each. All other IA locals are regional.

 

[Evin Grant]

FYI IATSE has ruled data managment and on set workflow is now completely under the jusidiction of local 600 (Camera).
Sorry.

 

[Brandon Fraley]

FYI IATSE has ruled data managment and on set workflow is now completely under the jusidiction of local 600 (Camera).
Sorry.

Any idea why they call it local? as opposed to just, say, "600"?

 

[Ethan Cooper]

Any idea why they call it local? as opposed to just, say, "600"?

just a unionism. every union of any type I've been around calls themselves local (insert number here)

 

[Alan Rosenfeld]

Any idea why they call it local? as opposed to just, say, "600"?

Local union
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A local union, often shortened to local, known as a union branch in the United Kingdom, is a locally-based trade union organization which forms part of a larger, usually national, union.

Local branches are organized to represent the union's members from a particular geographic area, company, or business sector. Locals have their own governing bodies which represent the interests of the national union while at the same time responding to the desires of their constituents, and organise regular meetings for members. Local branches may also affiliate to a local trades council.

In the United States and Canada, locals are usually numbered, e.g. CWA Local 2101

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_union

 

[Andrew Walker]

FYI IATSE has ruled data managment and on set workflow is now completely under the jusidiction of local 600 (Camera).
Sorry.

That may be the case but my local is still offering the class to 695 members. Not sure how data management got kicked into 600 because 695 has had control over it for sometime now. Maybe they are trying to say that there's a difference between post production and production. If anything it should be apart of local 700 (Editors Guild) as it fits more in that area than it does in camera. I say that because the preparation of dailies and the handling of footage is editorials job, not camera.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

As far as I know Local 695 is the Sound department, Local 600 is the camera department, but there is always a battle of you do this I do that kind of thing on Union sets, even so they have specific jobs, like who loads, or who does play back for on set clients, etc. but the budget of each individual project dictates who does what, depending on the number of people on set.

I have seen positions jumping all the time, I'm not Union, but any time I'm on set, I end up just doing a bit of everything, fun and always great learning experiences.

ciao

 

[Brook Willard]

That may be the case but my local is still offering the class to 695 members. Not sure how data management got kicked into 600 because 695 has had control over it for sometime now. Maybe they are trying to say that there's a difference between post production and production. If anything it should be apart of local 700 (Editors Guild) as it fits more in that area than it does in camera. I say that because the preparation of dailies and the handling of footage is editorials job, not camera.

Tom Short [IATSE International President] confirmed the jurisdiction as belonging to local 600 on July 30th, 2008. While the letter itself is private, there are some valuable public quotes from the notice... such as this one:

"The downloading and copying of complete digital files including the inputting of meta data on set should remain within the exclusive jurisdiction of Local 600 so long as no editorial functions take place..."

It confuses me that the sound local has training for camera use and digital loading - particularly since it's out of their jurisdiction - but admittedly I don't know much about locals beyond my own. But technically - as I understand it and as it has been explained to me - any 695 member who is serving as a digital loader on a union set is working well outside of their jurisdiction... and presumably can be brought up on charges [?].

 

[Andrew Walker]

Tom Short [IATSE International President] confirmed the jurisdiction as belonging to local 600 on July 30th, 2008. While the letter itself is private, there are some valuable public quotes from the notice... such as this one:

"The downloading and copying of complete digital files including the inputting of meta data on set should remain within the exclusive jurisdiction of Local 600 so long as no editorial functions take place..."

It confuses me that the sound local has training for camera use and digital loading - particularly since it's out of their jurisdiction - but admittedly I don't know much about locals beyond my own. But technically - as I understand it and as it has been explained to me - any 695 member who is serving as a digital loader on a union set is working well outside of their jurisdiction... and presumably can be brought up on charges [?].

That quote you had in there was kind of interesting as it seems to be a request to the IA. Also the funny thing is that to join Local 600 as a DIT all one needs is money. But to join Local 695 in any classification one needs to either get 30 days of union work at one studio or one show or 90 days in total. It took me a year an a half to join Local 700, which kicked out projectionist and put them back into 695. To me it seems like a money play because to join Local 600 is at least $5K more than to join Local 695. This is why I have no desire to join Local 600. If they would lower their entrance fee to something reasonable that could be justified I would join.

 

[Conrad Hunziker]

Joining 600 requires 100 days of paid verifiable non-union work or 30 days of paid union work, in addition to the initiation dues. At one time 600 had relaxed some rules because the DIT position was new and there were not enough members for open positions. However for more than the last year, all rules are fully enforced.

 

[Brook Willard]

Conrad, it's 30/100 to get onto the roster, but DIT is a non-rostered position [damn producers...]. Joining local 600 as a DIT essentially only requires ~$8,000. That said, a non-rostered DIT is not allowed to bump to other positions or work out of classification.

 

[Andrew Walker]

Conrad, it's 30/100 to get onto the roster, but DIT is a non-rostered position [damn producers...]. Joining local 600 as a DIT essentially only requires ~$8,000. That said, a non-rostered DIT is not allowed to bump to other positions or work out of classification.

Same thing I was told by Local 600. They were very admit about reminding me that I couldn't change classifications.

 

[Conrad Hunziker]

Sorry - forgot DIT is non-rostered

 

[Andrew Walker]

I was going to start a new thread but I figured I would just post the pictures from todays event in here. The event was much bigger than I thought it was going to be and there was a lot more "questions/get on with it already" than I thought there was going to be. Mainly by some of the 695 members that didn't want to learn anything else unless it was specific to production sound. I think the Red team got some good notes, related to sound, on what to have when Epic and Scarlet come out. All in all I thought it was a cool presentation and some of the people that were willing to learn, did.

 

[Andrew Walker]

Here's a couple more.

 

[Casey Green]

I posted this in another thread but thought it was worth putting here as well:

Actually, my understanding is, although there has been some recommendation to the IATSE by the former outgoing leadership (as referred to in posts above), this was never officially decided on and is still being worked out by the current IATSE leadership.

What remains certain is that DIT (by true definition - adjustment of live signals for calibrating cameras, monitors, etc.) is Local 600, and Playback for the Director/DP (Video Assist) is 695. Data Capture is not clearly defined...

So productions that would like to have Data Capture + the ability to playback takes for the Director or DP as one operator would need someone form Local 695. (Or they can have a separate Video Assist operator.)

Not trying to start a long debate on the matter, just stating the facts as I have heard them. Hopefully this will all get worked out before too long, but as far as I know, this is still up in the air.