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RELEASED: Beta Build 20 Firmware (v20.0.2)

Brent Carter

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The latest version of RED ONE beta firmware (Build 20 - v20.0.2) has been released on www.red.com/support .

Significant changes since Build 18 v3.6.4 (Beta firmware release):
* Enhanced Color Matrix
* Decreased noise in blue channel, especially under tungsten lighting
* Increased accuracy of skin tones on RED-EVF, RED-LCD, and HD-SDI monitor outputs
* 48V Phantom Power is now maintained over power cycle (Rev B audio boards only)
* Headphone output level now maintained over power cycle.
* Fixed ""audio codec error" on clips with audio played back from RED-DRIVE
* Fixed "green flash" on clips with audio played back from RED-DRIVE
* Fixed camera reboot on clips played back from RED-DRIVE
* Fixed camera reboot following receipt of corrupted lens data from S4/i port.

Note: If camera encounters corrupted lens data it will disable S4/i port until next power cycle.

Note: Cooke S4/i lenses and Birger Engineering interface are not supported under this Build.

Thanks, BC
 
Brent@RED said:
Note: Cooke S4/i lenses and Birger Engineering interface are not supported under this Build.

Thanks, BC
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Is this being worked on? and have you investigated a more direct interface with Birger/canon data (i.e. without translation to cooke format)? as I would guess at this point (and more so in the future) that is the predominant use of the i/interface. I suspect you may be able to get a more robust implementation of lens data both to the screen and metadata working with Birger - simply because they have some pretty good engineering and more incentive to get it done both quickly and with a high degree of reliability.

Simon Blackledge said:
Brent if S4/i data isnt supported how can you get corrupt data?

Cheers

Si
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Just saw that. If one were to be a bit snarky they'd say that's how they fixed the reboot problem.:biggrin:
 
S4/i data

S4/i data

..if S4/i data isnt supported how can you get corrupt data?
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It doesn't say that. RED's S4/i based lenses are supported in this Version of Build 20.

There can be a variety of ways of getting corrupted data from the lens, including pinching the lens data cable...

For the record, we do (or at least should) support Cooke S4/i lenses, but there is no spec with regard to Birger.

If the S4/i data port works with that, its a coincidental benefit. We just note that it does not work in this Version.

But the most important message to take away is, the changes in this Build eliminate the re-boot issue.
 
Stuart English said:
It doesn't say that. RED's S4/i based lenses are supported in this Version of Build 20.

There can be a variety of ways of getting corrupted data from the lens, including pinching the lens data cable...

For the record, we do (or at least should) support Cooke S4/i lenses, but there is no spec with regard to Birger.

If the S4/i data port works with that, its a coincidental benefit. We just note that it does not work in this Version.

But the most important message to take away is, the changes in this Build eliminate the re-boot issue.
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Point clarified, thanks.

Many customers purchased the REDONE, and more pointedly MOST of my customers and many of the video professionals that I have come to know over the past 25 years, purchased REDONE's based on my recommendation and explanation that Birger and RED had announced the capability of using Canon SLR lenses. For many of us in the video world it was the fact that even if we were given a free Varicam or similar camera we still had to spend almost $20K to get a good HD lens with wide angle capability that pushed us to consider the REDONE. With REDONE we got a "more than HD" camera (with a few aggravations compared to those shoulder mount Sony/Pan cameras) for that $20K and a few extra grand for some Canon lenses with as good or better optics (If we didn't already own some.).

I know that RED never promised lens data or even mentioned it, but it is something that a lot of us customers would really like to have (working reliably) so in the spirit of RED being the customer oriented company, I/we would appreciate RED doing whatever it can (within reason obviously) to facilitate that.
 
ISO320

ISO320

It seems much more sensitive than build 17.
For day light set-up: ISO320 is too hard to control, I brought down to ISO200 and it works fine. Daylight sweet spot has changed to 160-200?

previous version of Build 20 had excellent result under tungsten.
 
Does the Skin tone indicator actually read 1 Stop above 18%?? or is it still 1/3 stop???
 
So not to rain on a parade or anything, but when is there going to be an updated RELEASE Build? For insurance reasons most professionals cannot use Beta Builds. RED even advises against this on its own website. How long has it been since a Release Build has been updated? A year?
 
Mitch Gross said:
So not to rain on a parade or anything, but when is there going to be an updated RELEASE Build? For insurance reasons most professionals cannot use Beta Builds. RED even advises against this on its own website. How long has it been since a Release Build has been updated? A year?
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Not a year, no. November, to be exact.

BC
 
Skin Tone

Skin Tone

Does the Skin tone indicator actually read 1 Stop above 18%?? or is it still 1/3 stop???
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Its the same as in Build 17 and 18, no change.

Probably best to measure it yourself using T stop readout or ISO adjustment - it should be closer to 2/3 stop over 18% Grey (green bar)
 
We pc users will have to wait for redcine x to use this build? does it work with the adoce CS4 suite?
 
Brent@RED said:
Note: If camera encounters corrupted lens data it will disable S4/i port until next power cycle.

Note: Cooke S4/i lenses and Birger Engineering interface are not supported under this Build.

Thanks, BC
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How can one get corrupt data from an interface thats not supported? :-/

sorry.. totally lost.

s
 
Santiago Marti said:
We pc users will have to wait for redcine x to use this build? does it work with the adoce CS4 suite?
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The footage works fine from build 20 but it's still debayering using the older colour science. Not a problem if you know how to colour correct it as you've been doing up until now with build 17/18 footage.

That said.... bring on the build 20 compatible PC software!!!!!!!!

HTH

Paul
 
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