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Announcing the S.A.L.T. (Southland Alternative Lens Test)

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Evin, I guess i'm missing something about the structure of your tests.
So having the Red 18-50mm wouldn't provide any interesting comparisions with the other lenses?
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All of them are interesting, but you can't make an omelette...

We would have tried to test it if one had shown up, but the request wasn't posted till late Thursday. I would have also loved to have Master primes, but the priority was the new glass. The inclusion of Supers, Standards, UPs and S4s was as a reference and because they were on hand at Keslow.
 
Evin Grant said:
All of them are interesting, but you can't make an omelette...

We would have tried to test it if one had shown up, but the request wasn't posted till late Thursday. I would have also loved to have Master primes, but the priority was the new glass. The inclusion of Supers, Standards, UPs and S4s was as a reference and because they were on hand at Keslow.
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What's done is done and the test results are really something to look forward into but i still don't understand how the testers could overlook the fact that the two RED ZOOMS are the reference for the majority of the RED users and the best way to see RED's advancement in lens' technology.

I only hope that there will be a second test with RED lenses only.
 
My favorite lenses, hands down, were the Rouge DP 16-42 & 30-80.

Amazzzzzzing glass, mechanics, optics, weight, size!!! Only major drawback is that it can't be used on film cameras but who cares when you have glass this cool!

All the other lenses were just as good, but these really stuck out to me that day..
 
Miltos Pilalitos said:
What's done is done and the test results are really something to look forward into but i still don't understand how the testers could overlook the fact that the two RED ZOOMS are the reference for the majority of the RED users and the best way to see RED's advancement in lens' technology.

I only hope that there will be a second test with RED lenses only.
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Yes, but that wasn't the purpose of this test, now was it?
 
Matt Uhry said:
Only good surprises at the test, no lemons in this bunch.

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I love seeing the itty-bitty RED Null down at the lower left corner. You could have probably stuck it in the zoom motor bracket of the big Optimo!
 
Richard Darge said:
My favorite lenses, hands down, were the Rouge DP 16-42 & 30-80.

Amazzzzzzing glass, mechanics, optics, weight, size!!! Only major drawback is that it can't be used on film cameras but who cares when you have glass this cool!

All the other lenses were just as good, but these really stuck out to me that day..
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You preferred the look of them to the RPPs?
 
I haven't had a chance to look through the footage and make a really educated decision, but the Rogues very much stood out for me as well. They distort a little more than the Optimo... they're advertised as slower [though there isn't a real-world difference that I could see]... but for $20 grand a pop, they're awesome. If you can always make it to a T2.8, they're smart money.
 
Mitch Gross said:
Unfortunately these prototypes were not available in time for the tests either. Please don't hold it against them. Just like the Luma Tech lenses, they were just not ready for this. .
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Hi Mitch,

I thought Jan told us all they were in the Ultra Prime Class, and that was a couple of months ago, perhaps he meant 1960's Arg 25-250 class.

Stephen
 
Brook, Evin, David, Richard, et all...thanks a bunch for doing this. As someone who doesn't get a chance to play with MPs, UPs, S4s, etc. very often, I am very much looking forward to getting an education from your results
 
Brook Willard said:
I haven't had a chance to look through the footage and make a really educated decision, but the Rogues very much stood out for me as well. They distort a little more than the Optimo... they're advertised as slower [though there isn't a real-world difference that I could see]... but for $20 grand a pop, they're awesome. If you can always make it to a T2.8, they're smart money.
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VERY interesting, the reports on these lenses. I wish they had one that was more like 17 - 80 in the 'rouge' price range, but i guess it would be bigger too, and these two are real nice and lightweight.

What I am REALLY hoping for is for a 'rouge' line in the 24 - 290 (or 25 - 250) range. That would be absolutely HUGE.

Does anyone know if this 'rouge' line will be expanded upon??
 
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Hi Mitch,

I thought Jan told us all they were in the Ultra Prime Class, and that was a couple of months ago, perhaps he meant 1960's Arg 25-250 class.

Stephen
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The glass is excellent but we had a number of thoughts on the physical housings and mechanics. You will be hearing more from these lenses soon enough.
 
Will there be some reference to which lenses cover 32mm image circle (and how well) for EPIC or is that going to be a different test when EPIC is released? Curious.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
Will there be some reference to which lenses cover 32mm image circle (and how well) for EPIC or is that going to be a different test when EPIC is released? Curious.

Jim
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I began noting the coverage of lenses that I knew already but I stopped because the projector reticle at Keslow was not sufficient to determine image circle. I've been compiling a list back at the Duclos Lenses shop and I would be glad to project the RPPs there to determine a more precise image circle.
I have the UQ Primes at the shop right now.

Once Evin posts some more photos from the projection test, I'll elaborate why the projector there was not good for determining coverage.
 
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