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Scarlet might not be released??

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I used to come to the Scarlet forums, and even Red before that, to stormchase the camera that was going to give me an affordable cinema tool in place of my video tool. It was fun to speculate, dream, and drool.

Then the D90 came out. Now I don't have to keep tabs on the Scarlet cause the dslr's are affordable, incognito, and low-light heaven. They aren't perfect, but they are enough for now, and will only get better.

I still hope the Scarlet is too drool over when it is available, and will no doubt be interested to see what sample footage will look like, but now I just don't feel like I have to find a way to have one. That dopamine rush is gone, which is probably a good thing cause I probably wouldn't have been able to afford it.

I also know that the accessories I have for the D90 will translate to the next generation of Nikon (D400 or whatever), so I don't feel like I am trapping myself with gear that I will have to dump.

EDIT: I also think there is an advantage with coming out with these dlrs early. Alot of people are learning how to shoot with film lenses for the first time, and invest in lenses that will affect their future decision for whatever upgrade, since they will want to use the same lenses. Since I got a Nikon,
I have been investing in Nikon glass(for video and still). It will be harder to rationalize losing alot of my initial investment by having to invest in all new gear.

One advantage that the Scarlett really had going for it before the dslr's came out was that it was going to be the first cinema-type camera product to buy after shooting with more traditional video cameras. Now people are using the more affordable dslr's already, so that gap has been lessened.
 
Scarlet and the RED future

Scarlet and the RED future

Because the line 'all subject to change' is bs.

Doesn't seem like an honest way to treat customers.

The RED model, and the Scarlet camera in particular, is a flawed concept

RED already has a bad reputation from professionals

RED has lost the professional market it needs to succeed

..they needed an extra person to deal with the workflow, a real negative.

RED is left with the consumer / prosumer / hobbyist market that will probably buy about 1000 units

..this market doesn’t even need the alleged resolution the Scarlet potentially offers

At best the RED Scarlet will be an expensive niche product

..do you really want a camera / technology that was revealed two years ago?

..you want technology from a company that is dependable, has a track record and delivers a product when they say will.

We are used to seeing something at a show, being impressed and integrating the product a few weeks later

Sony has the last laugh because they are selling cameras everyday
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Humm, an interesting list of statements. But if your point is you don't think its worth discussing a product not yet on the market, O.K fair enough.


Ironically the snide comments come from the RED Team member

There is a certain arrogance from the RED company that is a real turn off.
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You may have taken my comment to be snide, but to be honest given the uptake of RED cameras right across the professional sector of the industry, its pretty difficult not to have a wry smile when reading all of what you claim to have happened above.


However, if you are waiting on a Scarlet, thank you for your patience.

Based on what we already see and we know, it will be rewarded.
 
Cheers Stuart.

Moir, I'd happily take that bet with you, a 1000 in six months no problem. Let me know when that six month period starts and then we need to stick with that date. RED says this Summer so I'm ok with June through December 2009.

Now you put your money where your mouth is.
 
Scarlet and the RED future

Scarlet and the RED future

Zane, a question: do you have anything sensible to contribute to this board ?

If not, please go. At least until December when we'll see if you won your bet.
 
zane smithe said:
Cheers Stuart.

Moir, I'd happily take that bet with you, a 1000 in six months no problem. Let me know when that six month period starts and then we need to stick with that date. RED says this Summer so I'm ok with June through December 2009.

Now you put your money where your mouth is.
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Great!

"Within 6 months of it's full release". Whenever that is. That is the bet.

Stuart, would Red hold the $$ in escrow for both of us until the end of the 6 month period, and then adjudicate?
 
zane smithe said:
Cheers Stuart.

Moir, I'd happily take that bet with you, a 1000 in six months no problem. Let me know when that six month period starts and then we need to stick with that date. RED says this Summer so I'm ok with June through December 2009.

Now you put your money where your mouth is.
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Feel free to PM for details if you are not full of shit.
 
Can we please close this thread? I'm tired of seeing its sensationalist title appear at the top of the new posts, and at this point, it clearly has absolutely no value and adds nothing to the community. Thanks.
 
Stuart just responding to Moir's offer. Funny how you all get agitated over some simple questions...

To anyone who wants to honour that bet email directly at zane.smithe@gmail.com.
I'll wager the price of the basic Scarlet that RED will not sell 1000 Scarlet units between July 2009 and December 2009, the alleged release date.

We shall put the money in a legal escrow account, all above board, you can even choose.

Any takers?

Didn't think so.

Time to stand behind your company fellas.
 
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I'll wager the price of the basic Scarlet that RED will not sell 1000 Scarlet units between July 2009 and December 2009, the alleged release date.
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I'll wager that they take orders for over 1,000 Scarlets ... on the release date.
 
zane smithe said:
I'll wager the price of the basic Scarlet that RED will not sell 1000 Scarlet units between July 2009 and December 2009, the alleged release date.
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Zane, I grow weary of your taunting, inane posts. If you're going to make a bet with someone, please do so through private messages as requested.

You need to be specific about WHICH Scarlet you are betting on and whether the six month time limit is from the day it is released, the day they start taking orders or between July and December, as you suggest.

All I know is I'll be sending a deposit the day they start taking them. And I'm not alone. Who knows? Maybe over a thousand other people have their checkbooks sitting by the computer, too.

Until then, cheers.

And best of luck on your bet.
 
Read the posts Big Mike, I'm just responding to one of your crews taunts. You guys don't like it when someone brings up simple info about the legitimacy of this business model. It's threatening to your belief system. Scarlet is very much like Jesus, in fact, a figure of peoples imagination, copious discussion on something that doesn't even exist. Weird.
 
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