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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Guy trades in his RED for an A-Minima

I can see the appeal of the little A-Minima as a director/shooter off on your own, grabbing things, without having to get approval from a bunch of people sitting in front of a monitor. You've got the wide latitude of film, a small camera, no cables, etc. And all the "organic" texture and happy accidents (and not so-happy accidents).

It's nice to live in a world where we still have options of what to shoot, from Super-8 to IMAX, from DV to RED, etc.

And if Hunter can afford to buy a RED package and then turn around and buy an A-Minima package, he's obviously doing well enough in life!

Beautiful stuff, by the way. Makes me want to run out and shoot something.

Sure, you can process digital stuff to look like softer, grainier 16mm and Super-8, but that's a bit like painting a house blue so you can turn it green in post, rather than paint it green in the first place. Having endless options in post to change your mind is not necessarily the best way to learn your art and craft.

For RED to "win", every other format doesn't have to "lose".
 
I love having asmall film camera around .The A-minima is an awesome option to have as a shooter, to bad the mags are such a PIA.
 
hunter is right.. mullen is right.. and obin IS right.
 
Is this it?

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If so I can turn the thread around in a funny twist: A friend of mine just sold one of these planning ahead for Scarlet. :)
 
obin said:
what people seem to NEVER "get" is the simple fact that it's in POST you make your image come alive along with on-set lighting. Period. end of story. My brother and I can make RED look ANY WAY WE LIKE. gotta know your toolset in POST!!!!

argg...
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Hopefully Post is where everything you tested in Preproduction makes sense and works as you hope. That's not to say that things won't change in Post, just that it's better to go in prepared than to just feel your way through it.
 
does this mean that if i trade in a Red for a super 8 cam or flip hd camera i'll get my own thread too ?
but the real question is ..would it be part of my 15min in the spotlight ?
 
David Mullen ASC said:
Having endless options in post to change your mind is not necessarily the best way to learn your art and craft.
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Not to mention it can certainly not be one of the fastest way to learn.

When you can make infinite changes in post... it's easy to spend an infinite amount of time constantly fidgeting with it. Post work is always like a painting. "It's done when you quit."

Although, one thing I do to myself is I force EVERYTHING to work when shooting stills. If I shoot 4,000 stills I force myself to sit down and get every single one of them passable. It's my personal learning process to A) force discipline on what I shoot. B) Spend the time to find what works, even in the mediocre shots. C) Find what I could have done while on location to have made it better. "Oh if only I had focused here instead of there this would have actually worked."

Anyway back on topic. The footage is quite lovely. I can't fault someone for preferring the look of 16mm to digital 4k. I wish there was a REDCine preset which perfectly reproduced the exposure response and grain of any film stock. It would be my favorite red feature.
 
donatello said:
does this mean that if i trade in a Red for a super 8 cam or flip hd camera i'll get my own thread too ?
but the real question is ..would it be part of my 15min in the spotlight ?
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bad boy.. ehehehehehe don you bite..

hunter is a nice poster but.. as you don my idea is he's much more in the mood to show off what others do not "buy".. like the manual gear transmission car he was driving in Oregon US?? the smart-type can bring not always good surprises.. you have a nice family hunter.. never forget hunter!

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the guy has talent anyway.. has anyone noticed as he shot his own wife?.. not w/ clichés.. great eye.
 
Why does this matter so much to others? To each his own. Red has enough street credit to hold their own.
 
donatello said:
does this mean that if i trade in a Red for a super 8 cam or flip hd camera i'll get my own thread too ?
but the real question is ..would it be part of my 15min in the spotlight ?
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If you really feel you need equal attention just drop me a PM, and a few buck in my paypal, I'll arrange it.

Joseph Ward said:
Why does this matter so much to others? To each his own. Red has enough street credit to hold their own.
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I don't think or at least didn't mean to infer that it does. I simply found it was a good conversations started... unfortunately I am still waiting for a few good posts regarding color reproduction and any other intricacies, and some talk about DSMC's possible effect on the differences.

Red is the new thing, once enough classics are shot with Mysterium, Mysterium-X and Mostro... then we'll be saying the same about Red Code. Not to mention probably most kids would prefer Red One in a blind stury since they are so into resolution/sharpness... (but I am no one to talk about these, just letting my mind wonder aloud)
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
If you really feel you need equal attention just drop me a PM, and a few buck in my paypal, I'll arrange it.
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ehehehehe we know now hunter's secret.. :ihih:
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
I don't think or at least didn't mean to infer that it does. I simply found it was a good conversations started...
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Gotcha. I don't mean that there is allot of attention here, but what the website or vlog insinuates about Red. I know there is still people who prefer film, but this seems only to get attention by implying RedOne as inferior. Both RedOne and Film are good in their own right. As time goes on maybe both formats will become seen for what the need is, rather than bashing one side against the other. Viva la Redvolucion!:beer:
 
lol... "conversationS starteD"!?! I need to type slower :)

Well... I don't think "silly" people prefer film... if I had more money I might consider it myself, not 16mm, no sir, S35 or Red for me, I think. A clean low ISO stock with an immense g&e package and an army of grips and electrics... maybe 70mm, motion controlled bass with lazer freakin' beams and Bond's Aston for transpo... but I can't. :-)

So am I sad? Well I was shooting on HVX's with adapters and people in the audience were flabbergasted and didn't expect the image... that were even more curious chuckled... so NOPE... :-) The medium matters SO little... the problem is that too many of us are so deep that they can't see the surface anymore. I am incredibly stoked that I don't have to lose any sleep over it, thanks to Red giving me something that is so utterly fantastic for a rental that is so utterly ridiculous. It lets little guys like us put the money where it is needed... the crew, post... warm gloves. :-) And still get something that is not film, but might be a cousin, or younger brother, but still has royal blood in its vains. Once we get the new sensors and bigger Red Codes who knows what the comparison will give you?

Besides, I am still waiting to see a blind study telling us what kids prefer. :-)


Just to cover my arse:
I am not a DP, and I am not pushing anything here... just speaking my humble mind. Take it or leave it. However if you think I have something to learn please do share it with me. I will be very appreciative.
 
Hunter may prefer film and that's fine. But it's seriously misleading to say the total cost of HD telecine/grading is $275! Telecine costs is one the first reasons we have been shooting on Red. which over the last few years have been anywhere from $500 to $1000 an hour!
 
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