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Announcing the S.A.L.T. (Southland Alternative Lens Test)

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david farland said:
So now we have a good impartial way to measure the result, which I believe was never an issue, be good to have an accurate/impatial way to express those results.....
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I have a solution to this, Dave. You organise the lenses and I will organise a lens projector, MTF machine and a set of MPs and UPs to compare with.

It is just that some RPPs may not come back from the test and stay with the organiser, I expect. :sifone:
 
We're getting close, don't worry. Everybody's either at NAB or working this week... news to come.

I've volunteered to keep any extra lenses we end up with at the end of the tests.
 
I really can't wait for SALT, it is going to be a big deal if you guys can get every set of interest.

Will that be possible or are there sets that you may not have access to?
 
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What MTF machine will you use?
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I use one at ARRI Australia. I'm not sure what brand it is, but I know it is a very expensive box. It just gives you numbers at different apertures, so it is easy to do a comparison.

Still, the best test is on the projector and eye ball, even though subjective to certain extent.

I'm not sure what Brook is going to use, but I heard that all the lenses will be shipped to Sydney to double check their results. Is that correct, Brook? :sifone:

Edit: This is why they called it SALT, which stands for the Second Australian Lens Test.
 
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I haven't read this full thread, so excuse me if this has been covered, but I hope the SALT tests will post physical dimensions and weights for all the lenses tested. The RRP's, for example, seem like they will be really great from what I saw on the projector, but they are big and heavy, esp. the 25. Having a smaller and lighter lens can make a difference for a lot of purposes, so buyers should take that into account.

I'm really looking forward to the SALT tests, and I appreciate the efforts of everyone involved.

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Physical characteristics will be taken into account. No MTF machine, lens projection and shot footage only. Manufacturers all have their own MTF data and I don't want to get into that battle. Again this test is about defining the character of theses lenses, both objective and subjective. It's not about generating a numbers war.
 
Evin Grant said:
Physical characteristics will be taken into account. No MTF machine, lens projection and shot footage only. Manufacturers all have their own MTF data and I don't want to get into that battle. Again this test is about defining the character of theses lenses, both objective and subjective. It's not about generating a numbers war.
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Not really a number guy myself. I think it always comes down to personal opinion. I shot a 2k project yesterday with a set of Zeiss super 16 glass, and both myself and the director agreed that the 30 year old set of Lomos I had looked a lot better.

We returned the Zeiss to the rental house and went with my set of Lomos. The Producer had insisted on the "name."

Usually, the Zeiss glass is really good and crisp, but the set of Lomos just seemed a little richer in texture than the opposing set.

So, I reiterate that I agree with Evan. It all comes down to personal taste. And, numbers just don't give you that elusive emotive sensation.

C.
 
Did this happen? I thought it was going to be the week after NAB.
 
Many of the interested parties are still in prototype stage. Give it a little time or the test will not be as meaningful or useful for end users.
 
How's it coming along guys....any ETA?
Have you locked in Red's. did I hear Red was going to assist?
Understand you're not going to wait for ALL prototypes to be ready.
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Evin, will you be including the Duclos 11-16mm?
 
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