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Stolen RED in Vegas, #735

This is a big drag and I feel for you. My insurance policy stipulates that the gear can not be left unattended in a vehicle and now I completely understand why.

I feel for you, being robbed is a very shitty feeling.

I hope you can get up and running again quickly.

David
 
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Is the serial number of the camera in the metadata of the R3D files generated by the camera?

If not, can this be done? Or can the serial number be hidden in the file header separately to the metadata where RA and RC can see it?

I'm thinking that RA & RC could use the internet to call home with this info in a similar way to Adobe's Creative Suite.
 
David Battistella said:
This is a big drag and I feel for you. My insurance policy stipulates that the gear can not be left unattended in a vehicle and now I completely understand why.

I feel for you, being robbed is a very shitty feeling.

I hope you can get up and running again quickly.

David
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Our policy allows for unattended vehicle thefts, but the deductible is double and the coverage is half.

It's a sad event, any theft. I was at a large promoter here in Montreal the other day, finishing up a grant application. There were two guys in a elevator bragging about the amazing deals they'd gotten on hot cameras. They weren't being quiet about it. Like they were proud. Out loud.

Shameful.
 
The worst thing in your case, is that I dont think those punks dont even know what they were stealing.
Such a shame bro. Sorry for your camera and your car!
 
Ramesh Jai said:
Time to put GPS in RED's.
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More like it's time for people to stop leaving thousands of dollars worth of equipment in their cars unattended. It's just not wise to leave it in a car in a parking lot at Best Western (or anywhere for that matter). Both the thefts in New York and this one in Las Vegas sound as if they could have been prevented by taking a little extra precaution.
 
Leaf Baimbridge said:
More like it's time for people to stop leaving thousands of dollars worth of equipment in their cars unattended. It's just not wise to leave it in a car in a parking lot at Best Western (or anywhere for that matter). Both the thefts in New York and this one in Las Vegas sound as if they could have been prevented by taking a little extra precaution.
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Exactly.

And it's not disrespectful to point this out.
 
That's like 3 Reds in the space of less than a month. Wow. One has to wonder how anyone would fence one of these off without raising red flags. I thought Vancouver had a bad rap for stolen camera gear.
 
There is lots of crime out there... and lots of cameras now too so its bound to happen..

Remember, when there was just 1 RED in the world, it even got stolen back in the day. We got it back pretty quick, but its just a matter of chance most of the time.
 
And how could we forget the famous breakin at Red facilities.

Regardless of the circumstances, I think it's best we support the victims in keeping an eye out for these cameras. Most likely they will be sent to out of the way places and used privately, but still doesn't hurt to ask for help from fellow Redusers.

A No-Camera-Left-Behind policy is probably in effect from this point forward. If you are traveling with your camera and need to make stops, take the body with you at all times. Yes, bring it into the rest room at the rest stop. Never leave it unattended. This goes for Red One, and any other professional camera. Crime will be on the rise as the economy continues to slip.
 
Should adopt the NRA attitude of...

You can pry the RED from my cold dead hands..
 
Jarred Land said:
There is lots of crime out there... and lots of cameras now too so its bound to happen..

Remember, when there was just 1 RED in the world, it even got stolen back in the day. We got it back pretty quick, but its just a matter of chance most of the time.
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Really? I thought you said back then that no cameras were stolen - only papers and computers... :ph34r:
 
Stuart English said:
Bo, the camera has an electronic serial number (a.k.a "PIN") that appears each time the camera boots up. The PIN is visible in all monitor outputs at that time, and you can also force the display of the PIN in the camera's rear LCD by pressing the UNDO and JOYSTICK at the same time. We also record the PIN into each frame of video recorded by the camera.

Unlike a physical serial number (which can be defaced) the "PIN" cannot be altered. It's attached to that camera for life.

This is the best method of verifying ownership of cameras in the field.
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Since that's the case, it's theoretically possible that you could create firmware updates that have the id's of stolen cameras embedded and abort the update process if a stolen camera is updated. Bring up a message on the screen saying as much. Sound possible?
 
simond83 said:
This might work as a nice disguise;

http://www.sarantel.com/press/article?id=134

Si :detective2:
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That's great! This combined with the truck vault concept would make a perfect theft deterrent system.

stevesherrick said:
And how could we forget the famous breakin at Red facilities.


A No-Camera-Left-Behind policy is probably in effect from this point forward. If you are traveling with your camera and need to make stops, take the body with you at all times. Yes, bring it into the rest room at the rest stop. Never leave it unattended. This goes for Red One, and any other professional camera. Crime will be on the rise as the economy continues to slip.
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I think this "policy" is simply unreasonable. If you're that paranoid about getting your camera stolen, you may as well leave the camera at home, buried in a wall. It's like buying a vintage Corvette and leaving it covered in your garage permanently. What's the point?

Let's face it, expensive equipment is at high risk for theft and that's just a part of owning 100K in gear. You learn to be careful with your gear, keep it covered in your car, have a solid insurance policy, and hope you're not unlucky. What else can you do really?
 
Jonathan Stevenson said:
That's great! This combined with the truck vault concept would make a perfect theft deterrent system.



I think this "policy" is simply unreasonable. If you're that paranoid about getting your camera stolen, you may as well leave the camera at home, buried in a wall. It's like buying a vintage Corvette and leaving it covered in your garage permanently. What's the point?
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As i pleased you with my first post, i'm allowed to mock you with my second one :w00t:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7807210.stm
 
Stealing cameras.

Stealing cameras.

It takes two (or more) people to steal a camera, the thief and the buyer of the stolen camera.

So the main purpose of the PIN is to allow those who WANT to know whose camera that is to verify that fact.

That can best be done by visual inspection of the PIN at boot up.

If that helps reduce the value of a stolen camera then it becomes a deterrent.
 
Jonathan Stevenson said:
That's great! This combined with the truck vault concept would make a perfect theft deterrent system.



I think this "policy" is simply unreasonable. If you're that paranoid about getting your camera stolen, you may as well leave the camera at home, buried in a wall. It's like buying a vintage Corvette and leaving it covered in your garage permanently. What's the point?

Let's face it, expensive equipment is at high risk for theft and that's just a part of owning 100K in gear. You learn to be careful with your gear, keep it covered in your car, have a solid insurance policy, and hope you're not unlucky. What else can you do really?
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My post was a bit tongue and cheek. It was a loose reference to the No Child Left Behind Act. Basically what I'm saying is use common sense. If you leave the gear in your car, you are taking a risk. You can disguise it, yes. But the better way to go is plan ahead so you are not leaving gear unattended, as much as you can within reason. Obviously there are times when you just can't avoid it, but as soon as you do it, you are responsible for the outcome. That's all I'm saying. And make sure your insurance policy explicitly says it will cover gear left intentially unattended. This can be a complete disaster if there are any clauses that protect the insurance company against negligent loss.

Whether you take the Red into the bathroom with you is a personal matter. :)
 
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