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FOR SALE : Super speeds - freshly serviced

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Fredrik Callinggard

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So here's a near mint condition T 1:3 Super Speed set for sale 18-85mm.

It's a MKII and as you can see on some of the photo's that means that it's not the triangle iris leaves but the round one (left some photo's in there so you can see). These are made in West Germany (even says so on them) but they where sold in East Germany therefor they were called Optons instead. This does not make them any different. They're exactly the same as the matter of fact I had them just serviced with my other set and they're 100% identical.

This set is in extremely good shape have hardly been used and as already mentioned it has just had a complete service. So it's in mint condition.

Reason for me selling is because I have two sets and I don't need that. I'm also looking into upgrading to Master Primes.

I'm not in desperate need for money so only serious offers please. We all know the price of these.

PM me for offer or through my e-mail fcallinggard@mac.com

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These are Superspeed Mark I, right? Mark II lenses have expanded focus. We will send you an informational letter for your convenience.

What is the asking price for these?

Thank you,
Stuart @ Focus Optics
 
FocusOptics said:
These are Superspeed Mark I, right? Mark II lenses have expanded focus. We will send you an informational letter for your convenience.

What is the asking price for these?

Thank you,
Stuart @ Focus Optics
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Hi Stuart,

Last time I checked at ARRI they were MK II :biggrin:
 
Helpful Information,

Zeiss manufactured 5 super speed sets. First set were B Speeds T1.4, which a lot of people refer to as "Mark I". The B speeds are not mark I's they are simply called B 1.4 super speeds. The set is 18mm, 25mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm. You can add B to PL adapters, add focus gears, and 80mm fronts. The 18mm, 25mm, and 35mm optically are identical to the mark I, mark II, and mark III. The 50mm and 85mm are not the same optically as the mark I, II, and III, but are still very good glass. The focus range from infinity to close up is a little less than half a turn in the focus range. The focus ring has footage and metric marks on the engraving. However, when installing focus gear the metric marks are covered up.

The next set was Zeiss T1.3 Mark I super speeds. Mark I, mark II, and mark III are all optically identical. This set includes 18mm, 25mm, 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. The Mark I has metric in footage and mechanically its one 1/2 a turn from infinity to close up. The barrels are larger than the B Speeds. The focus has built-in gear and they are all 80mm Fronts.

Then the mark II came out. The mark II is identical to mark I and mark III, except mark II does one full turn from infinity to macro, which is called a wrap around. Mark II has footage and metric marks on the engraving. Some mark IIs have iris and focus gears, some mark IIs have only focus gears.

The next set were the mark III's. They are the same as the mark I and II. The focus is wrap around, one full turn from infinity to macro. The only difference between the mark II and III is the mark III the engraving is flipped right side up. You can see the engraving from both sides of the camera. Mark III's are all either footage or all metric. Mark III's do not have foot and metric marks on the same scale. They have built ion iris and focus gears and are all 80mm fronts.
The 5th set of super speeds are the master primes, which you can not find used. Master Primes are completely different design than the mark I, II, and III and mechanically different too.

Also, Zeiss manufactured a 65mm super speed after the mark IIs came out. So there are mark II and mark III 65mm super speeds, which are extremely hard to find.

Stuart
 
Well, 18mm, 25mm, 35mm, 50mm were mark I T1.3 high speed, which came out earlier about 80s, and the 85mm does not look like the same set of Mark I High speed set, you see the different from the Iris Gear.
In Hong Kong we used them for most of the feature film shooting from 80s to 90s.

Cheers
 
Perry Ho said:
Well, 18mm, 25mm, 35mm, 50mm were mark I T1.3 high speed, which came out earlier about 80s, and the 85mm does not look like the same set of Mark I High speed set, you see the different from the Iris Gear.
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The 85 has had it's gear fixed sometime during the years. It is a used set not a new set (that would be the day if you found that) but it is in very good condition and FYI ARRI still maintain that it's Mk II's.
 
Hi Fredrik!

I been used the Mark I's 85mm with bayonet mount like the one on the top,
but it doesn't matter, still set of great lenses.
So, what about the cost for the whole set?

Cheers
 
Also - grabbed from internet

The Mk. II focus scales are calibrated in feet and meters. The scale rotates 170º and each side of the lens has one calibration, ether feet or meters. The marks are oriented along the optical axis of the lens. When the camera assistant needs to switch sides on the camera, he can “flip” the lens by loosening the PL mount and rotating into another of the four available positions. In this way either the feet or meter scale can be used on either side of the camera.

The much larger diameter of the focus helix thread and the larger linear guides reduce play in the focus mechanism and give a much smoother and more consistent focus feel. The guides are also adjustable on the Mk. II.

The larger lens housing has a much more stable lens mount, held by 8 screws instead of a 1.5mm pin and a lock ring. The mounts can be easily changed from Bayonet to PL by replacing the lens mount.

The aperture closes down to T16 rather than T11 of the Mk. I lenses.


I think that clearly describes my lenses?
 
I'm sorry but I think alot of what you have written is not what would normally be considered orthodoxy. Certainly I have never heard Master Primes being refered to as superspeeds ..

A more orthodox explaination can be found here ..

http://cinematechnic.com/resources/zeiss_super_speed_f1,2_lenses.html

I think you may be confusing 35mm and 16mm lenses ..

Justin

FocusOptics said:
Helpful Information,

Zeiss manufactured 5 super speed sets. First set were B Speeds T1.4, which a lot of people refer to as "Mark I". The B speeds are not mark I's they are simply called B 1.4 super speeds. The set is 18mm, 25mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm. You can add B to PL adapters, add focus gears, and 80mm fronts. The 18mm, 25mm, and 35mm optically are identical to the mark I, mark II, and mark III. The 50mm and 85mm are not the same optically as the mark I, II, and III, but are still very good glass. The focus range from infinity to close up is a little less than half a turn in the focus range. The focus ring has footage and metric marks on the engraving. However, when installing focus gear the metric marks are covered up.

The next set was Zeiss T1.3 Mark I super speeds. Mark I, mark II, and mark III are all optically identical. This set includes 18mm, 25mm, 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. The Mark I has metric in footage and mechanically its one 1/2 a turn from infinity to close up. The barrels are larger than the B Speeds. The focus has built-in gear and they are all 80mm Fronts.

Then the mark II came out. The mark II is identical to mark I and mark III, except mark II does one full turn from infinity to macro, which is called a wrap around. Mark II has footage and metric marks on the engraving. Some mark IIs have iris and focus gears, some mark IIs have only focus gears.

The next set were the mark III's. They are the same as the mark I and II. The focus is wrap around, one full turn from infinity to macro. The only difference between the mark II and III is the mark III the engraving is flipped right side up. You can see the engraving from both sides of the camera. Mark III's are all either footage or all metric. Mark III's do not have foot and metric marks on the same scale. They have built ion iris and focus gears and are all 80mm fronts.
The 5th set of super speeds are the master primes, which you can not find used. Master Primes are completely different design than the mark I, II, and III and mechanically different too.

Also, Zeiss manufactured a 65mm super speed after the mark IIs came out. So there are mark II and mark III 65mm super speeds, which are extremely hard to find.

Stuart
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