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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

CineForm NEO 4K Beta, RedCine compatible, and available for trial.

David,

Can you give any details on the best hardware solutions available to work with your software.. I am very interested in developing a hardware & software solution that will yield SRW type quality.

Thanks
 
David,

If by developing you mean, building a solution to market to others, you need to contact us directly. If you want a CineForm capture solution for SRW quality from dual-link or HDSDI, that does already exist, please see www.Wafian.com. Or you can convert your workstation with Prospect HD/2K/4K with an AJA card -- although Prospect only single link HDSDI only today.
 
Talked to David Taylor several times back in May. Happy to see the 4K version for the Red. Our DP for the upcoming film has been doing rigorous testing and seems to think the Red will work for us. I told the guys CineSys about the codec and they should have contacted you. They are putting together the Linix SAN (the XSAN just wasn't fast enough for our 4K workflow) and 4K finishing /4KDI Piranha systems for us. We will still be using FCPro for editing. If Red testing results meet our performance need for the film we will be using two REDs for the A & B cameras and one for steadicam, along with one or two Phantoms.

Which products will we need?
Will all your software be in final production form by end of February? (we begin PP Mar 17th)

Lance
Mockingbird Films
 
Do you get the "Estimating duration..." before the export failure as 1080p is working fine here. Make sure Keyframes is set to 1 -- RedCine incorrectly reads our decoder setting for keyframe support (our QT Encoder doesn't use keyframes.)
 
Quicktime is no longer frozen on Frame Zero with SOME codecs. If I had to take a guess on something, I would suggest to people that you install REDCine BEFORE quicktime. It's a shot in the dark, but it worked over here.

Cineform stills suffers from teh Cannot Write To Frame Zero problem
 
Please open HDLink, to so if you have a licensing issue (I think Jake will ask you the same question) -- that tell if you are activated, or have x-days left on a trial. Also CineForm is one of the few codecs to use the 16-bit per channel mode, we have found some RedCine failures only occur using the deep pixel formats.
 
Hi,

I am getting this issue too. I have even tried uninstalling Quicktime, installing Redcine and then using your Codec with quicktime and it doesn't work. Gives the "Processing" for just a second and then goes to the "Write Frame 0 error". Any ideas? I can get other codecs like MPeg4 to work but not Cineform HD.
 
coollights said:
Hi,

I am getting this issue too. I have even tried uninstalling Quicktime, installing Redcine and then using your Codec with quicktime and it doesn't work. Gives the "Processing" for just a second and then goes to the "Write Frame 0 error". Any ideas? I can get other codecs like MPeg4 to work but not Cineform HD.
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We are looking into what has changed, RedCine or CineForm, as it seems to be trying to negoiate for the wrong pixel format.
 
Hi David

it is amazing to see how many talent are connected to this site...

Cineform's still support Iridias Speedgrade? Could you give us the bandwith NEO 4K and space with in NEO 4K for 10 min? Do you plan to put a hardware acceleration card to help the engine process? Did Cineform coded for multiprocessor (8 and more)?

Thanks a lot Mathieu
 
Mat@imageWork said:
Cineform's still support Iridias Speedgrade? Could you give us the bandwith NEO 4K and space with in NEO 4K for 10 min? Do you plan to put a hardware acceleration card to help the engine process? Did Cineform coded for multiprocessor (8 and more)?
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Hi Mathieu,

Yes CineForm supports Speedgrade and vice-versa -- we are even share a both with them at NAB. For 4k by 2K footage CineForm RAW varies between 30-45MB/s (18-27GB for 10 minutes) and CineForm 444 varies from 60-90MB/s (36-54GB for 10minutes), you can also encode to 422 which puts you in-between. Hardware acceleration is a possibility, although software speed is already pretty good on fast workstations. We are threaded and tested up to 8 cores, although more should work fine.
 
Thanks David,

On differents threads, people speak about export R3D in Cineform444 very quickly. Our main R3D problem is too to render in DPX or whatever intermediate codec to grade and finish your work. And after that we have 4K DPX bandwith to deal with. That's where cineform is usefull.

With all your experience now on Reduser forum by now (7 april 2008), how could we get cineform quickly with R3D. What is the best quality setting to use with cineform (flimscan 1 etc...) And finally, what are the compagny who are actually support Cineform (in a realtime and full quality preserve perspective)

Thanks again David

Mathieu
First shoot for a commercial with RED
See the video here. Take 2 min to laod
 
Using latest Redcine on a PC and installe trial version of Prospect 4K...when we try to export r3d file to cineform quicktime codec we also get the "frame 0" error.... this happens on 3 different computers....
 
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