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Which tripod & head for my red one?

Go for Miller 55 or O'Connor 1030 HDS. You will find quite a few informative threads on these tripods on Reduser.
 
The O'Connor 2060HD is a great match for the RED ONE.
 
Hi Karim,

Do a search, there have been numerous threads about this subject. There have been and still are group buys and deals from a number of manufacturers or resellers. Common choicies are Miller Arrow 55, O'Connor 1030HD or HDS, or 2060, but Cartoni seem to be pretty successful (I forget if its Gamma or Delta), as is the Panther X15, personnally I was looking at the Miller but I've got options for second hand Sachtler 20s which are a little sturdier, so I'll be testing that this week.

Good luck in your search.

Damien
 
I was looking at the O'Connor 1030 or 2060, but I went to Abel Cine to check out the Panther T45, which feels awesome and has a 100lb capacity. I highly recommend getting to a rental house and checking out all your options, hopefully with a RED or similar weight camera mounted.
 
earthling said:
Hi Karim,

Do a search, there have been numerous threads about this subject. There have been and still are group buys and deals from a number of manufacturers or resellers. Common choicies are Miller Arrow 55, O'Connor 1030HD or HDS, or 2060, but Cartoni seem to be pretty successful (I forget if its Gamma or Delta), as is the Panther X15, personnally I was looking at the Miller but I've got options for second hand Sachtler 20s which are a little sturdier, so I'll be testing that this week.

Good luck in your search.

Damien
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Looks like the Cartoni Delta could work as long as your lenses didn't get too heavy.

The Cartoni C20S might be better though.
 
If you are really going to load it up, look at an O'Connor 2575. Contact BJ Purcell at custom supply for a quote. He's a great guy. And If you want a 2060, I think you'll find that the 2575 isn't much more expensive.
 
BJ is offering some great deals, and we are trying to as well. Not sure of his prices and what he can bundle from which manufacturers, but we are selling pretty much every tripod brand you can think of.
 
We use the O’connor 2060HD- it's great. I've seen some deals on this site before, just be prepared to wait a little bit. apparently the redusers are snapping them up and they are having trouble keeping up.
 
I just received today my Oconnor 1030HDS from Custom Supply. BJ was very helpful with any questions I had. I had to wait for it though, not so much on Oconnor's end of having to catch up, which I hear they are doing, but the train derailment that caused it to sit on the tracks in a UPS piggyback trailer for several days. All's well that ends well, it arrived in great shape.
 
Karim, what is your budget? Set your budget and then look at the systems available in that range. There are some deals going on out there, but keep in mind that an O'Connor 2060 or 2075, and others in that league will set you back quite a bit. They are worth it, but if you have a limited budget you can get a more affordable tripod that works for your particular camera configuration and then rent the better systems when you need them for specific jobs. I would suggest making sure you have some headroom in your load capacities. Don't push it to the far end of the range.
 
We have bought the Miller 55 Arrow HD system. I have used it many times before and is a great bit of kit. Much leaner on price than it's competitors (AUD$6k) and can hold up to 25kg (around 55 pound). Each to his own but i have used many other makes and Miller really holds it own against the big players and at awesome prices.:weight_lift:
 
zeke said:
Looks like the Cartoni Delta could work as long as your lenses didn't get too heavy.

The Cartoni C20S might be better though.
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I have a Cartoni Delta. I picked it up from www.mediaconcepts.tv. (If you call or email them, make sure you talk to Gary and tell him I referred you. He'll take good care of you!)

I love my Delta!!!

If you can only afford one tripod, in my opinion, get this one. If you can afford two, get this one and an Oconnor 2060.

The Delta has a max load rating of 48 lbs, higher than the 1030's, yet it is still light enough (under 20 lbs with CF sticks) to easily run and gun.

It's the best of both worlds.

However, I would absolutely prefer the 2060 for when I'm doing long shots, or where moving quickly from place to place is not an important factor.

The Delta is perfect for a 2 man crew, or situations where you have to walk a long way to get a shot. If you have a medium to large crew, or you're doing a shoot where you don't have to lug a lot of equipment, then the 2060 would be my choice.

The 2060 definately has a smoother action than the Delta, but it's subtle. The trade off with the Delta is that it's light, has a high load rating for it's wieght, is easier to cart around, and is generally about 1/2 the cost of a 2060.

Those are my two choices for the kind of work I do.

-Thor Wixom
 
So I've got a question about head capacities. I have a Satchler video 20+ (with rated capacity around 45lbs) and heavy duty carbon fiber legs rated at 209lbs. I made a mock up of a fully outfitted red using a cooke 20-100, approriate aks, my old aaton, monitor, etc, plus a few extra things including a 10lb sandbag :) to get myself up to about 55lbs, which i figure is rough estimate of studio config of red. (I think red could even be heavier if you weren't careful, but anyway)
So i put this contraption on my head, and it seemed....ok. I didn't even have to use maximum counterbalance. probably 5 more lbs and the 100mm bowl would start to slip, b ut at 55lbs as long as it was snug you were good. So my questions are:
1) is the main test of head's payload capacity how it feels when operating?
2) can you actually damage a head- (start leaks, etc) running it above rated capacity?

based on operating smoothness and mechanical limitations I would say 45-55 lbs for satchler video 20+ seems acceptable. But i really don't want to trash my otherwise good head.
Also i like having 2 stage legs, no need for both std and baby legs, which seems the only route with 150mm ball or mitchell mounts.
 
I disagree with most on this board that the 1030 is an adequate head for a Red set-up. The camera body alone weighs 10 pounds. The 18-85 weighs 10 pounds. Add to that rods, follow focus, matte box, ND & IR filters, cage, battery, cf module, Drive, Viewfinder, LCD, cables, breakout box, etc.. You will be WAY BEYOND 30 pounds.

But don't listen to me, I have rented a 2575 to go with an HVX200 before so I must be crazy.
 
I imagine if I didn't own a satchtler video 20+ and like the legs w/it, an oconnor 2060 or 2575 would be the way to go. 2575 is a pig, but so is an optimo...

I agree, 1030 seems too weak, at least on paper.

too bad no one makes a 100mm ball to mitchell adapter (not the other way around, as is common)
 
Some agree, some don't - it all comes down to your wallet though. If you can afford it (and IMO if you're using the RED you should be able to, just my opinion) you should go with the O'Connor 2060HD and even the O'Connor standards and babies. Can't go wrong with them.
 
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