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Quickly renaming a mag?

Shawn Nelson

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So the last mag from yesterday's shoot was A014, today's first mag was also Mag A014 (yay for Red's automatic name incrementing!).

I just talked it over with the AC and we've decided to make it A015 and then next mag going in will be A016.

So how do I take a mag directory and rename all the files to A014? Does anyone have a terminal command for such things?
 
I have also used
Renamer4Mac

And you can easily do it in automator.
Use:
Ask for Finder items
Get folder contents
Rename Finder items
etc.
 
Okay, here's the problem, renaming the files screws up the proxies.

Red (Stuart, Deanan, Rob, et all), does the R3D "know" what its name is? I'm thinking of writing a BASH script to crawl the sub directories of a .RDM directory, delete all the .mov files, rename all the .R3D files and then call RedLine to re-create all the proxies. How does that sound? Do you already have such a script? :-)
 
It does know it's name in the metadata. That way if you change the name and need to recover the original name later, you still can.

Sorry, i don't have a script but it should be easy to make one that does.
 
Deanan said:
It does know it's name in the metadata. That way if you change the name and need to recover the original name later, you still can.

Sorry, i don't have a script but it should be easy to make one that does.
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Hey Deanan -

What a hit Automator support for RedLine/RedAlert would be!!
 
"here's the problem, renaming the files screws up the proxies"

you can create new proxies in RedAlert ...
 
Hmm....making Automator glue code for a shell script is pretty easy....
 
donatello said:
"here's the problem, renaming the files screws up the proxies"

you can create new proxies in RedAlert ...
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Or Redline, like I described in my post. I just need to know if it'll be a problem later on.
 
By the way, the RedPortal utility I made available a few months ago can still make QT wrappers in a batch, just disable "Use Default Quicktime Folder" in RedAlert and drag all the .R3D files onto RedPortals icon. Then it will batch create the proxies into the original path's.
 
Shawn Nelson said:
Or Redline, like I described in my post. I just need to know if it'll be a problem later on.
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Yes. Unfortunately, REDline uses the name in the metadata to set the reel ID in the QT wrapper.

We can change that :)
 
Deanan said:
Yes. Unfortunately, REDline uses the name in the metadata to set the reel ID in the QT wrapper.

We can change that :)
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So then what's the best practice recommendation for my situation, two consecutive mags that have the exact same id?
 
If you're not using reel id in the QT for anything, you're ok with renaming the files. If you are, the next version of redline will put the new output name into the QT reel id.
 
The problem I see, is still going to be an inconsistency later. If you're editing in Avid or FCP and using the filename to determine the Reel name, then when you come to make DPXs later on, the Reel details in the DPX files will be derived from the Metadata (ie. the original duplicate name), which will cause conform problems.

In my not so humble opinion, RED needs to make the camera a little more resilient to this by making it not reset the reel counter until the user explicitly tells it to. Also, make it possible to alter the internal counter so it's not necessary to manually force reel every time you want a number other than what RED thinks you should have.

And we need some method to correct this after the fact, which means renaming the files and altering the metadata in the R3D files.

I'd also like to see the filenaming modified slightly to avoid name collision.
 
Stuart English said:
That resiliency (not resetting on resolution change) should have been re-established in Build 15 V2.1.7.
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What about manually setting it's internal counter? I notice that even after you force a format, the camera will still carry on wherever it thinks it should be.

Such a setting seems like it would be very useful for shoots that take place over many non-consecutive days.

Another thing I'd personally like to see is the option to set a 'Project' name in the camera as an extra piece of Metadata.
 
While we're in the realm of file names, can we get an "append resolution to clipname" option?

Basically a simple "A001_C001_080323_4K.r3d"

This would make sorting and IDing clips at a glace much faster.
 
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