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Hi guys,
as a Canon user for very many years, I have had and used any camera and lens Canon has produced in the past twenty years, so I like to share my opinion on its Glass, the EOS series, in the hope that some of you will find such info helpful in some way, with your upcoming purchases.
Please note that I'm not that kind of reviewer that takes tone of photos in a clinical environment, put each lens to the exact same tests, shoot them all at each individual stop increase ETC. "I DON'T DO THAT" What I do is simply shoot each lens in a day to day use and look at the results, if I'm impressed with it, I'll keep it and if not I'll sale it and never suggested to anyone. At times I did however come across great lenses that I sold anyway just to upgrade to the latest version or moved up to L glass, or simply moved away from ZOOM all together and went with Primes.
Anyway below I'll list the lenses in which I had personal and suffice experience to share in off info to let any one here have something to go with when making their purchasing decisions.
I strongly suggest that every one uses permanently mounted ***UV HAZE*** filters screw in to your lenses strong and well fit, as not only will be a great protection fro your glass but also in some L series glass will make the lens fully Weather Resistance. Some don't agree to have an extra glass in front of your lens, but you do must have it on, the focusing moves the elements in and out dust can get in your lens and cause expensive repairs and cleanings in Labs. Also it is much easier to clean a flat filter then it is a curved Glass.
***ZOOMS***
EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $689
This is the widest angle lens that Canon offers, they are not compatible with cameras such as the 5D and all the 1D series body, but they are compatible with the Birger mount for RED, so this little Zoom is the widest as you can get on RED/BIRGER. Quality of the build it is not up to the L glass series standard, but it is still a very well build lens, image quality does however not match that of the EF 14mm f/2.8L II (I know not fair to compare with Primes) but even when compared against the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II.
That said this little one is the widest focal you can get from Canon on your RED, and if 16 or even 14mm it is not wide in off then by all means go with the 10-22, it will not disappoint you, just will not give you the same L glass quality, but for the price it is a very good compromise.
EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $999
This Zoom is a great one not only because of its speed but because of both build quality and especially the fact that busts the IS (image stabilization system) and a large front element of 77mm just like the famous 70-200.
To take notice that the IS system has not as yet been tested on RED/BIRGER, therefore purchasing this lens only because of the IS would be a mistake, as for less money you can buy the 17-40L, of much higher image quality.
EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM FILTER SIZE: 82mm $1,400
This lens has been upgraded from the MKI with great results, ***(DON'T GET THE MKI)*** reducing CA and vignetting as well as implementing Flair resistance, and giving this lens also Weather Resistance, at 82mm the front element is the largest of the L series with a front screw in thread for filters, build extremely well and very solid, this Zoom represents a new era in both Zooms and L glass capabilities, surpassing in quality the 24mm L prime, and getting so close to the 14mm L prime and the 35mm L prime, that only a specific lab test or a very well trained eye would see a difference in image quality. However it needs to be noted that the 35mm L prime bust a speed advantage of f/1.4, breathing test on this zoom (as well as in any zoom) has not been tested but this one it is known to perform extremely well on that regard.
EF 17-40mm f/4L USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $679
This lens is a fantastic lens, and a great deal as well, if in a budget this lens can replace any of the above zooms, any day any time, extremely sharp, and likely the sharpest of the bunch, will provide great images at a great value, but you do go to f/4, so being slower and with no IS, lighting considerations must be kept in mind when purchasing a slower lens.
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,139
This lens is no doubt one of the most popular Zooms in its range, extremely sharp, and with a beautiful rendition of colors, be aware however that this Zoom those extend quite a bit when zooming, and there fore in order to be used with an MB on the RED, the HOOD must be cut in a even circular way and kept on as if was a HUGE step up/down ring. Past that little issue this is a great choice as a zoom hands down, among the best, and considering its range it is a must have for Zooms users. Build off course is excellent, resistance to flair is some what not as good as the 16-35 II but you are unlikely to ever used with out a hood or an MB, and you shouldn't.
EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,059
This lens is a great choice and it can be a very economic one when considering the range of the Zoom, and the fact that has IS (if will work as we hope with Birger) will allow to better the image considering that this is not a fast lens. Image quality is not at the same level of the 17-40, 16-35 II, but again for the range the compromise of image quality and speed it can be a good choice.
EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM FILTER SIZE: 67mm $1,059
This lens is a great choice, but as it is slow and the IS unproven it would be much better choice to go with the:
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,140
This lens is fast, very well build, and very sharp, even sharper then the IS big brother version, not by much but again under lab tests has shown that it has the edge over the the IS. Now if you can spend the extra money then by all means do get the:
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,699
This lens is of great build, Weather resistant and it is not the most popular zoom for nothing, I found this to be the absolute must have, as it is as sharp as it can get in its Zoom range, especially when making use of the IS, also the fact that at his range it still has both Inner focus and Inner zooming, it will make the most desirable lens for RED/BIRGER, a bit heavy but no so bad. If you can afford it please don't go with any other 70-200, you will enjoy this one both on your Canon camera and on RED, if the IS does in deed work well on Birger, then this one will shine like no other.
*As far as ZOOMs I have not shot with any other and can't say of them, but I wouldn't use anything else besides of what I listed above, when all possible avoid slower the f2.8 on any lens, it will save you money and time in lighting set ups, and no matter what this are Still lenses and don't always have the edge when shot wide open.*
I hope that some of this info will serve you guys well and I will answer any questions to the best of my knowledge with great pleasure in trying and bring a little support to those that needed.
:excl: ***GO TO THE OTHER POST, PART 2 FOR PRIMES***:excl: HERE: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10397
*Photos will come soon*
Ciao
as a Canon user for very many years, I have had and used any camera and lens Canon has produced in the past twenty years, so I like to share my opinion on its Glass, the EOS series, in the hope that some of you will find such info helpful in some way, with your upcoming purchases.
Please note that I'm not that kind of reviewer that takes tone of photos in a clinical environment, put each lens to the exact same tests, shoot them all at each individual stop increase ETC. "I DON'T DO THAT" What I do is simply shoot each lens in a day to day use and look at the results, if I'm impressed with it, I'll keep it and if not I'll sale it and never suggested to anyone. At times I did however come across great lenses that I sold anyway just to upgrade to the latest version or moved up to L glass, or simply moved away from ZOOM all together and went with Primes.
Anyway below I'll list the lenses in which I had personal and suffice experience to share in off info to let any one here have something to go with when making their purchasing decisions.
I strongly suggest that every one uses permanently mounted ***UV HAZE*** filters screw in to your lenses strong and well fit, as not only will be a great protection fro your glass but also in some L series glass will make the lens fully Weather Resistance. Some don't agree to have an extra glass in front of your lens, but you do must have it on, the focusing moves the elements in and out dust can get in your lens and cause expensive repairs and cleanings in Labs. Also it is much easier to clean a flat filter then it is a curved Glass.
***ZOOMS***
EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $689
This is the widest angle lens that Canon offers, they are not compatible with cameras such as the 5D and all the 1D series body, but they are compatible with the Birger mount for RED, so this little Zoom is the widest as you can get on RED/BIRGER. Quality of the build it is not up to the L glass series standard, but it is still a very well build lens, image quality does however not match that of the EF 14mm f/2.8L II (I know not fair to compare with Primes) but even when compared against the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II.
That said this little one is the widest focal you can get from Canon on your RED, and if 16 or even 14mm it is not wide in off then by all means go with the 10-22, it will not disappoint you, just will not give you the same L glass quality, but for the price it is a very good compromise.
EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $999
This Zoom is a great one not only because of its speed but because of both build quality and especially the fact that busts the IS (image stabilization system) and a large front element of 77mm just like the famous 70-200.
To take notice that the IS system has not as yet been tested on RED/BIRGER, therefore purchasing this lens only because of the IS would be a mistake, as for less money you can buy the 17-40L, of much higher image quality.
EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM FILTER SIZE: 82mm $1,400
This lens has been upgraded from the MKI with great results, ***(DON'T GET THE MKI)*** reducing CA and vignetting as well as implementing Flair resistance, and giving this lens also Weather Resistance, at 82mm the front element is the largest of the L series with a front screw in thread for filters, build extremely well and very solid, this Zoom represents a new era in both Zooms and L glass capabilities, surpassing in quality the 24mm L prime, and getting so close to the 14mm L prime and the 35mm L prime, that only a specific lab test or a very well trained eye would see a difference in image quality. However it needs to be noted that the 35mm L prime bust a speed advantage of f/1.4, breathing test on this zoom (as well as in any zoom) has not been tested but this one it is known to perform extremely well on that regard.
EF 17-40mm f/4L USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $679
This lens is a fantastic lens, and a great deal as well, if in a budget this lens can replace any of the above zooms, any day any time, extremely sharp, and likely the sharpest of the bunch, will provide great images at a great value, but you do go to f/4, so being slower and with no IS, lighting considerations must be kept in mind when purchasing a slower lens.
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,139
This lens is no doubt one of the most popular Zooms in its range, extremely sharp, and with a beautiful rendition of colors, be aware however that this Zoom those extend quite a bit when zooming, and there fore in order to be used with an MB on the RED, the HOOD must be cut in a even circular way and kept on as if was a HUGE step up/down ring. Past that little issue this is a great choice as a zoom hands down, among the best, and considering its range it is a must have for Zooms users. Build off course is excellent, resistance to flair is some what not as good as the 16-35 II but you are unlikely to ever used with out a hood or an MB, and you shouldn't.
EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,059
This lens is a great choice and it can be a very economic one when considering the range of the Zoom, and the fact that has IS (if will work as we hope with Birger) will allow to better the image considering that this is not a fast lens. Image quality is not at the same level of the 17-40, 16-35 II, but again for the range the compromise of image quality and speed it can be a good choice.
EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM FILTER SIZE: 67mm $1,059
This lens is a great choice, but as it is slow and the IS unproven it would be much better choice to go with the:
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,140
This lens is fast, very well build, and very sharp, even sharper then the IS big brother version, not by much but again under lab tests has shown that it has the edge over the the IS. Now if you can spend the extra money then by all means do get the:
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM FILTER SIZE: 77mm $1,699
This lens is of great build, Weather resistant and it is not the most popular zoom for nothing, I found this to be the absolute must have, as it is as sharp as it can get in its Zoom range, especially when making use of the IS, also the fact that at his range it still has both Inner focus and Inner zooming, it will make the most desirable lens for RED/BIRGER, a bit heavy but no so bad. If you can afford it please don't go with any other 70-200, you will enjoy this one both on your Canon camera and on RED, if the IS does in deed work well on Birger, then this one will shine like no other.
*As far as ZOOMs I have not shot with any other and can't say of them, but I wouldn't use anything else besides of what I listed above, when all possible avoid slower the f2.8 on any lens, it will save you money and time in lighting set ups, and no matter what this are Still lenses and don't always have the edge when shot wide open.*
I hope that some of this info will serve you guys well and I will answer any questions to the best of my knowledge with great pleasure in trying and bring a little support to those that needed.
:excl: ***GO TO THE OTHER POST, PART 2 FOR PRIMES***:excl: HERE: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10397
*Photos will come soon*
Ciao
