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VFX test shot on RED...

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OK..keep it tuned to this thread...we are documenting the process on a sweet little visual effects shot we are doing on our RED...more as it comes in...:)
 
I'm curious to see how well the RED ONE will fit into the VFX side of moviemaking.

My main concern is the rolling shutter and resulting skew.
 
pretty stoked at this point should show somthing in the morning....need to shoot some timelapse.... Can someone tell me if you can with red right now?
 
Ok guys...just taken with my Iphone...thought you would like to see what we are doing...more later.....that image is all RED made plates and CGI....
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RndmAxess said:
I'm curious to see how well the RED ONE will fit into the VFX side of moviemaking.

My main concern is the rolling shutter and resulting skew.
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Your concern should be with how crazy noisy the blue channel is. Don't even consider shooting with a blue screen and a green screen lit with tungsten still gives a mess in the blue channel. Green screen/ HMI lighting is the only choice for good results.
 
Finner said:
Your concern should be with how crazy noisy the blue channel is. Don't even consider shooting with a blue screen and a green screen lit with tungsten still gives a mess in the blue channel. Green screen/ HMI lighting is the only choice for good results.
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Or how about those daylight balanced Kino-Flos???
 
Or Kino Supergreen tubes !
 
Shots with skin tones need good quality light. But for just lighting a green background which is supposed to be a single color, you don't need premium bulbs do you? I haven't tried it, but why not use the cheapest possible fluoro tube like "cool white". They look a little bit green already.
 
jbeale said:
Shots with skin tones need good quality light. But for just lighting a green background which is supposed to be a single color, you don't need premium bulbs do you? I haven't tried it, but why not use the cheapest possible fluoro tube like "cool white". They look a little bit green already.
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'Cause cheap flourescent bulbs have weird color spectrums.

You really want your greenscreen as far away from Red and Blue as possible to make keying easier later. Kino green bulbs help with that as long as you can keep the spill off the talent. Otherwise high CRI bulbs matched to the tone of green (is your green designed to be lit by 3200 or 5000?)

Having said that, software these days is so good you can get an average key off anything. But if you want great keys that pull easier then you should be pay close attention to your on set lighting.
 
BTW we had the worst lighting we could get for this test...jsut a bounce from the sun, the greenscreen was backlit! pretty much using the blue sky as a fill for the greenscreen...and still the results are amazing...
 
Finner said:
Your concern should be with how crazy noisy the blue channel is. Don't even consider shooting with a blue screen and a green screen lit with tungsten still gives a mess in the blue channel. Green screen/ HMI lighting is the only choice for good results.
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Daren, the blue channel has improved significantly in build 14 with REDCODE 36. It's not perfect - it's still a blue channel - but it's very much usable at this point.
 
"Or Kino Supergreen tubes !"

from the test we shot yesterday Red 103 /firmware 13..
the kino green tubes were the worst for blue channel ...
the best (clean) blue channel was using 5600K daylight on background & subject ...
 
The picture you posted obin, is looking very interesting i must say! I've been waiting for some VFX footage using RED.

Just one question if I may? At what frame rate and what resolution was the footage shot?

Thanks
 
Brook Willard said:
Daren, the blue channel has improved significantly in build 14 with REDCODE 36. It's not perfect - it's still a blue channel - but it's very much usable at this point.
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Great news Brook.

The image has looked good because the red and green channels were cleaner then any motion camera I have seen. The blue on the other hand was pretty ugly. I could not have seen how red could do anything to make the red/green channels any better so if the blue is getting better this will make dramatic improvements.

really good to hear.
 
Hi,

Recently I had a green screen shot with build 14 and it turned out very well.

We have lit that shot with HMIs since the sensor is balanced at 5000K. I cannot tell for the legacy builds but I'm sure that for a 5000k balanced sensor HMI is the way to go regardless what the next buuld will be like.

Would you shoot a green screen with Kondak 250 ASA daylight balanced with tungsten lights?

Hans
 
What about blueing up the tungsten fixtures or using an 80A?
kenny
 
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