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Politics, religion: was 2008 Elections...? - enter at your own risk

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Tom Lowe

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Well I was bummed that my main man Ron Paul did not do well, but I'm stoked that Barack Obama kicked some ass!!!!!

I fought in the first gulf war, and spent half a year in Afghanistan in 2003, and I'm sick of these wars. I want someone who will treat everyone like human beings and re-establish America as a (non-military) force for good in the world...

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Obama ..congrats! it is a new race now.
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Hey Tom, having a military background myself, I know exactly what you mean.

I'm suuper happy for Obama. He would be the ideal president. When he talks I sometimes get goosebumps. That's what the us needs right now. A real leader that also can reach out to a swiss guy like me.
Remember, the rest of the world doesn't like the US that much at the moment.
Obama could change that. I dont see any of the others that could. Think about Hillary, damn. :blink:

Tim
 
I imagine a lot of the Ron Paul crowd will be jumping ship to the Obama camp now which is too bad.
 
Obama.

But you shouldn't withdraw from Iraq until the job is done.

If you withdraw now or in the following 1-2 years, an even bigger nightmare will ensue there.

The war is wrong but it shouldn't have been started in the first place. At least not in this way.

Now, there's no place for withdrawal.
 
I don't know, but Obamas relationship with the bible is very strange for every non religious person. You guys already have a religious fanatic. There aren't any good candidates. Again.
 
macville said:
Since everyone keeps putting their vote up for Obama, I'm gonna say congrads to my boy Huckabee who won big last night! I know I'm probably one of the few conservatives on the board, but oh well...

Matthew
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I'm actually pretty conservative, but my gut feeling overrides all other lines I may have previously drew in the sand. :)
 
I'm from the grand state of Oregon, where our votes don't matter, at all (thanks to a little thing called the 'Electoral College'), so as naturally follows, my opinion doesn't really matter. So I won't endorse anyone, (though I have been known to donate to a fellow who's name rhymes with Fon Vaul).

Obama is definitely a speaker extraordinare, and while I know very little of what he actually stands for, I know his startling lack of experience is scary. But hey, who's says running this nation requires any real experience in the matter?

Since we aren't judging candidates based on experience and merely how we feel about them, I will now endorse Jim Jannard for president. I know this will delay Scarlet, but the executive order giving subsidies for a national digital projection conversion would easily be worth it!

JJ'08!!
 
macville said:
Since everyone keeps putting their vote up for Obama, I'm gonna say congrads to my boy Huckabee who won big last night! I know I'm probably one of the few conservatives on the board, but oh well...
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Yay!!! I'm pulling for Huckabee too!

Actually, I consider myself an independent thinker and I don't lean one way or another. As of right now, I'm anxiously watching both Obama and Huckabee and I think they both have a lot of good things to say, even though some of their viewpoints conflict. I think these two are the best candidates for '08 that have presented themselves.
 
Shawn Nelson said:
I'm from the grand state of Oregon, where our votes don't matter, at all (thanks to a little thing called the 'Electoral College'), so as naturally follows, my opinion doesn't really matter. So I won't endorse anyone, (though I have been known to donate to a fellow who's name rhymes with Fon Vaul).
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I'm actually registered as a Libertarian, which is kinda conservative. Ron Paul says he's Republican but some of his views, such as the legalization of all drugs, seem very Libertarian.
 
I'm actually a flaming conservative and that being said, I'm not sure I have a horse in this race. I'm not sure the Republicans could win with any of those guys that are running on their side. They just don't have a charismatic leader in their ranks. Whichever Democratic candidate wins the nomination will most likely be the next POTUS.
So if it's Obama, who will be VP? Hillary? ($10 says she has him bumped off so she can be pres...)
 
With the front loading of the primaries, Iowa and New Hampshire have become political theater. On Feb 6th it will be a completely different picture. The family business was political consulting, I thank God those days are behind me. If you curious it didn't matter Republican or Democrat if you the check was good, it was pure mercenary.

I've seen both sides of the coin. My friends if think that Senator Obama or Senator Clinton if they make into the White House, are going to pull Troops out of Iraq, or The world is going to say We love America again. Your in for allot of disappointment... The next President will be the one who finishes the war, the one after that will be the peace maker.

All my American brothers and sisters please register to vote, if you're already registered please vote.
 
I just to make sure we have a new president that won't pick a hardcore conservative for the next Supreme Court vacancy... that would have long-lasting ramifications far beyond who gets elected in the next few years.

If not for that concern, I wouldn't be so worried about Huckabee... at least he's not a hawk eager to drag us into more wars overseas, nor is he in the pocket of wealthy corporations.

I like John Edward's old-fashioned populism, his concern for the poor, but I don't see him getting much beyond the South Carolina primary. I'll probably go for Obama.
 
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