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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red #27, Production Day #1

The Third Man said:
Great Shawn.

Congratulations.

Your project is a real indie production, real indie filmmaking.

I do have also RR FF, 15 mm rods, Manfrotto tripod, head, etc...almost similar accessories.

Looking forward to read more reports about your RED shooting and the production pictures. And of course some footage.

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My gear waiting for RED.
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I gotta say that photo illustrates why I hate those 35 mm adaptors what a mess.
 
Hey Shawn,
I downloaded your audio and took it into Soundtrack Pro. After about 3 minutes of messing with noise reduction settings, I had it sounding pretty good, there is some warbling in the background, but all of the actors sound quite clean. With a bit of dodging and some atmos replacement, I would expect you to get a usable result pretty quickly.
You can download it at:

http://download.xdrive.com/s/7147757490sIPyHexkRhZdVaMmfX&partner=plus

Again, I only spent 3 minutes so this is just a starting point. I'm not suggesting that it will be perfect, just that there is hope.

Hope this helps!
Jim Hare
Sydney Australia
 
I did the same thing with the Noise Reduction plugin in Sound Forge - that fan noise cleans up reasonably well. PM me an email address and I'll email you the results if you like. I think you'll be able to fix this.
 
This problem was NOT a heat issue... see bug report.

Jim
 
Soundtrack Pro

Soundtrack Pro

Shawn,
No need to worry. Soundtrack Pro 2 has two effect plug-ins that are sure to put you at rest. I had this problem recording my last feature with the hvx200. Not from the camera itself but from the Firestore drive. The fan would come on in the middle of the scene and not stop.

The plug-ins are:
Multipressor which compresses/limits four individual channels.
Compressor is a basic compressor but will bring your desired frequency back up.

Additionally inside of FCP2 I used the hum remover audio effect before sending the clips over to Soundtrack Pro 2.

Suggestions:
Start with a hum remover in FCP2 then send it to soundtrack pro 2 and drop the multipress on to it. Crush the lowest frequencies but tweak to see where you can eliminate the fan sound that may be still present.

Hope this helps. Thanks for all the great footage.
 
Not sure if the hum remover would be suitable. Hum removers tend to be notch filters (one specific frequency) possibly plus harmonics. The noise from the fans is fairly broad spectrum.

I personally would use Soundtrack Pro's noise reducer, then add a noise gate to isolate the dialogue (removing potentially warbly background noise) then lay in some clean buzz track across the entire scene.
 
Not sure how clean buzz would go over from the kitchen but definately during the outside shots some cars passing or similar ambiance.

Though I agree the fan sound is pretty broad spectrum (white noise) isolating the loudest frequency of the fan which is in the lower frequency range tends to get rid of the noise where our ears most noticeably pick it up. Hence, the notch filter/hum remover. But from all the replies here you're well on your way Shawn.
 
Thank you everyone for the noise tip reductions, I'll be looking into all of that.

To clarify, the frozen peas and ice pack was unrelated to the fan. The fan was an ongoing thing all day (you can even hear it on the outdoors scenes) but the frozen peas was a ONE time incident wherein the unit wouldn't boot until we'd waited about 10 min in total. Not sure why yet, maybe the next firmware will fix it. The unit ran fine for the rest of the day.
 
Take a listen to this.
It will take more than just putting filters on a track.
The kid sounds good on the file you provided.
The guy sounds off mike.
You could easily loop him.
Even with noise from the camera you could
have taken the guy into another room and
done some looping pick ups - have him say
"what" about 20 times....
And sound blankets.....
rig up blankets around the camera to shield
the sound a bit. Anyway - take a listen:

http://www.mediafire.com/?31mom9dgmmy
 
He was off mic, intentionally, it was the kids' closeup. I'll sync up all the files, do my edit, and then worry about cleaning.
 
Shawn, thanks for taking the time to post, especially the pictures of your rig. All the best!
 
"After 5 minutes with frozen peas from the freezer on top .... it booted right up."

so you give the crew 30 min to eat and the camera 5 min to eat a meal ?
 
Gotta love how much the RED accessories allow the camera to be reconfigurable pretty much anyway you want.
 
One suggestion for all: Get "wild" sound.

Once you've got your images, get your actors to do the scene a few more times with the sound device recording ... this has proven to be remarkably valuable ... and in this instance, could have saved the day.
 
Shawn,

You are quickly proving to be the most awesome resource / experience reporter on RedUser (besides Jim and team of course). Thanks for taking the time to post your open and honest opinions, look forward to the short!

drew
 
Cool stuff dude! I see Norm's in this, awesome!
 
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