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WARNING for rookies...

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Three things to prepare for.

Focus.

ND's.

Exposure.

Jim
 
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Focus - I'm hoping that the high res EVF with Grame's magic waveform displayed will make that manageable. I also have many years of experience pulling my own focus operating 2/3" cams so I am used to racking on moving subjects - of course I could have been slightly off many times but unless I was in tight nobody could tell.

NDs, I only have one grade at the moment so perhaps I should get a full set from Schneider :mellow: .

I thought there was so much latitude exposure errors could be fixed easily in post :whistling: .
 
I get the first two, but is the third any different than those who are used to 35mm should expect? Or are you directing that at the auto-exposure _VX and below crowds?
 
Thanks for the warning, Jim.

I've never even used a regular video camera before (only been in the post-production side of the biz). It will be interesting to see how easy it is for a NooB to just pick up a RED and start shooting.
 
Jim, you realize that your statement causes the 100,000 people who DO know about the above but DON'T have sufficient cash for your camera to kinda all gnash their teeth in unison in a worldwide grinding noise, right?

Hey we can't complain though - you put it within rentable range for us!

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Quote from David Lynch (gawd I love 'im):

INTERVIEWER: Can you go back to orthodox filmmaking ever again?

LYNCH: hooting film as compared to shooting video is soooo inefficient. The downtime—I die the death. Magic can get lost. With video, there’s no waiting, you get deep into a scene, things can happen, and with auto-focus you can make little changes as you shoot you could never make with film. It doesn’t have film’s quality, but it has its own quality, and I love its quality. Film has gotten as good as it’s going to get. Video is the future, and it’s just going to get better and better.

WHAT I TAKE FROM THIS: Focus is gonna be an issue, of course...especially for cinematographers. But I hope artists will blow us away with Red even when something is a hair out of focus--I'd like to think we'll be so engaged nobody will notice. Slightly soft focus is sacrilege, of course, when all you're doing is staring at the image. But when you're telling a story in an innovative way, well I say rookies should go to town.

I can hear Jim groaning. All that out of focus Red footage floating around, spoiling his good name! ;-)
 
Sean said:
Quote from David Lynch (gawd I love 'im):

INTERVIEWER: Can you go back to orthodox filmmaking ever again?

LYNCH: hooting film as compared to shooting video is soooo inefficient. The downtime—I die the death. Magic can get lost. With video, there’s no waiting, you get deep into a scene, things can happen, and with auto-focus you can make little changes as you shoot you could never make with film. It doesn’t have film’s quality, but it has its own quality, and I love its quality. Film has gotten as good as it’s going to get. Video is the future, and it’s just going to get better and better.

WHAT I TAKE FROM THIS: Focus is gonna be an issue, of course...especially for cinematographers. But I hope artists will blow us away with Red even when something is a hair out of focus--I'd like to think we'll be so engaged nobody will notice. Slightly soft focus is sacrilege, of course, when all you're doing is staring at the image. But when you're telling a story in an innovative way, well I say rookies should go to town. ;-)
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Focus is an issue for everyone. Although David Lynch seemed happy with using the Auto-focus on the PD 150. This was ok for INLAND EMPIRE. He mentioned that he wants to consider 'A Small HD Quality Camera' for his next film. How about it Jim? - I think Lynch will love the Red and the Compact Red Camera. It'd be a crying shame to see the guy use a Sony V1!
 
Jannard said:
Three things to prepare for.

Focus.

ND's.

Exposure.

Jim
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I don't think this is the first warning Jim has made. And I think it's wise of RED to do this several times before release. As with any new professional level tool that democratizes the industry because of it's price and potential, it is inevitable that results will vary from outstanding to amateur (and quite possibly horrendous) depending on how much experience the operator will have.

When the Cameras get into the hands of the public (which will be Pro DPs and Camera Operators, as well as Film Students and Home Videographers, etc.) anything goes, and the sooner people realize this, the better the chance they have to familiarize themselves with the concepts and methods needed to produce quality images.
 
I don't know. If someone could make out of focus "Work" It'd be Lynch for sure.
 
Brook Willard said:
I get the first two, but is the third any different than those who are used to 35mm should expect? Or are you directing that at the auto-exposure _VX and below crowds?
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I think he means that the sensor responds differently to different contrast ranges. So you may be at ISO 320 in flat light but 500 or 640 in contrasty situations.
 
Further to Jim's warning about ND, I'm curious what you guys have to say about the different ND filters for 4K work (in my case for use with Nikkors).

For example over at www.CameraFilters.com, you can choose an ND-2 filter that is Hoya Double Coated, Hoya Ultra Thin, Hoya HMC Multi-Coated, etc. Evin Grant probably has a few pointers in these regards!
 
Sean said:
Further to Jim's warning about ND, I'm curious what you guys have to say about the different ND filters for 4K work (in my case for use with Nikkors).
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You may want to look into this product for Nikkors...
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It's a variable ND filter, from 2-8 stops, optimised for digital shooting, it negates the use of an additional polarizer though, so it's not a total solution.
http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html
 
Sean said:
Cool. Didn't know such a filter existed.

I notice that some filters are specifically designated as being for wide-angle lenses. I need different ND filters for my 17-35mm than for my 180mm (other than filter size that is)?
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The crop factor should mean the regular version will be fine.
 
I have been saying all along that all these 1st ACs who have been working on Varicams and F900s, etc, need to sharpen up. Either that, or the old-scool guys are going to rule the day once RED drops.
 
I don't give a crap. Coming from 3CCD land I'm gonna take this cam, learn it, play it, master it, tame it and let forth the beauty of the Oceans as never seen before.

S'all about the spirit.
 
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