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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Viewfinder or LCD? Can we choose?

zakaree said:
oh god, 10,000 bucks! no way. 700-1000 bucks!
preferably 700:) or without lcd.. 200?
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I think it will more exspensive then that. A focusable eyepiece while not the most complicated of things has to have at least four things that need to be of high quality. One is something to focus on. Since this is not a film camera it is not a simple ground glass. Rather a small electronic viewing screen with the related electronics involved. The viewing eyepiece it's self must be of sufficent quality to correct for curvereture of field and for chromatic abberations and this would require at least three and better yet four individual optical elements precisely spaced and mounted relative to each other. Then this optical group has to be able to move to and fro to accomadate different peoples eyesight. And finally all this has to be mounted in a rotatable housing to allow the use of some form of leveling. All in all more exspensive than even a small high quality lcd monitor.

Chuck
 
We can guess all they want... but they won't tell us until they're ready to. All ridiculous speculation will do is have some whuffo say "Yeah, the camera's only $17,500... but the EVF is $10,000!!!"

So the LCD will retail for $23,250 and the EVF comes in at a cool $49,995. Plus tax.
 
What?

What?

is it possible to just use a panasonic viewfinder or sony
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Why would someone want to ruin the looks of their RED by attaching something hideous like a sony EVF? Dude, I think I spotted your car in the parking lot. :D
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Eugene said:
Why would someone want to ruin the looks of their RED by attaching something hideous like a sony EVF? Dude, I think I spotted your car in the parking lot. :D
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hhahah:) fantasic picture.. i wouldnt get sony.. id get panasonic.


ps. i have a 2007 black on black lexus is250.. blacked out windows and rims.. wanna buy it? its for sale thanks to red
 
Cheaper variant for high end viewfinder

Cheaper variant for high end viewfinder

Brook Willard said:
We can guess all they want... but they won't tell us until they're ready to. All ridiculous speculation will do is have some whuffo say "Yeah, the camera's only $17,500... but the EVF is $10,000!!!"

So the LCD will retail for $23,250 and the EVF comes in at a cool $49,995. Plus tax.
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An old type of EVF is too expensive to make. You are right, have a look at the Sony's 2.7" HD Color LCD Viewfinder for the HDC / HDW Series price is $10,500.00

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/minisites/cinealta/shoot/hdcf950.shtml

I was suggesting to try out re-invent the Video Eyewear (Head Mounted Displays) like a viewfinder. Today's prices of these kind of devices are about US $ 1000 with the resolution 800 x 600, 1.44 Million pixels per display, etc. You could have options for two or for one eye viewing. All others who do not like it do not need to buy it and can look for much more expensive old fashion EVF.
 
Yes, indeed that we can loose any LCD display than a GOOD EVF has more communications with RED One . No other LCDs can repalce RED's own EVF.

I am a patient guy from 1.3 billion o + Indian nearly 2 Billion to witness 4K Digital Cinema camera happen to the half of the population of the world.

Stewart
Founder
REDHKSC
HkG / CHINA and India
 
zakaree said:
may software autofocus assist? with gridlines or something..

also.. is it possible to just use a panasonic viewfinder or sony.. something like...

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JVC ( Victor Company of Japan a parent company of Matshashita - Panasonic ) has many CRT based Viewfinders in stock as well.

* 4K to PROHD tape ( 19.7Mb/s in 4:2:0 as a final cheapest tape as distribuion tape format is not a good idea ??? )

Stewart
 
PROHD Tape is a mini DV tape and the capacity is 11GB costs only less than USD 5.00 !!!

Does anyone knows JVC had their very first RED Camcorder on the shoulder to blew Hoolywood away " Back to the future " ?

Besides SOON ONLY NOT YET or PANDA, and we as a leader RED 's partner is coming to help us to help others.

Stewart
Founder
REDHKSC
 
REDHKSC said:
Yes, indeed that we can loose any LCD display than a GOOD EVF has more communications with RED One . No other LCDs can repalce RED's own EVF.
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The RED 1280x720 px LCD should stay, the optitional EYEWEAR viewfinder is about to get those pixels closer to your eyes with the same resolution but for the less money than the old fashion and expensive EVF that has a price about more that half of the RED ONE. Let's call the optitional EYEWEAR viewfinder and Nikon F mount manual lenses a low budget or the indie RED accessories. Sony like HD EVF, Cookes and Zeiss Cine lenses the high-end budget RED accesories.
 
The Third Man said:
The RED 1280x720 px LCD should stay, the optitional EYEWEAR viewfinder is about to get those pixels closer to your eyes with the same resolution but for the less money than the old fashion and expensive EVF that has a price about more that half of the RED ONE. Let's call the optitional EYEWEAR viewfinder and Nikon F mount manual lenses a low budget or the indie RED accessories. Sony like HD EVF, Cookes and Zeiss Cine lenses the high-end budget RED accesories.
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I've got you 3rd Man NOT XMEN, I hope the BIG Cheeses shall share the bill.

Somebody should pay not just ONLY RED, and where are the BIG BOYS to share their HIGH Profits ACCESSORIES with RED ?

Stewart
A gardener for some " Fair Trade " deals in the World
 
3rd Man,

I had a wonderful moment in the street named " RING " when I was a Kid to visit Vienna in 18 years ago. The place with Arts to me in Europe anyway.

I have used my JVC GY-HD100E with P+S and Zesis 's ultra prime lenses for TV commericals as well. I know you are using interlace format + M2 right ?

Stewart
Hong Konger
 
Stewart.

If ever you are passing Vienna don't hesitate to give a call. The numbers find via my page link below.
 
The Third Man said:
An old type of EVF is too expensive to make. You are right, have a look at the Sony's 2.7" HD Color LCD Viewfinder for the HDC / HDW Series price is $10,500.00

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/minisites/cinealta/shoot/hdcf950.shtml

I was suggesting to try out re-invent the Video Eyewear (Head Mounted Displays) like a viewfinder. Today's prices of these kind of devices are about US $ 1000 with the resolution 800 x 600, 1.44 Million pixels per display, etc. You could have options for two or for one eye viewing. All others who do not like it do not need to buy it and can look for much more expensive old fashion EVF.
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Mel Gibson is watching through the Sony EVF attached on the Panavision Genesis camera at the Apocalipto set in Mexico. Also you could see a such huge Panavision lens or zoom labeled "EL HUBBLE".

The picture is too big for the forum page but click at the link below, open and see it on the another page separetely.

http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2006/Apocalypto/set.fs/06?w=1400&h=933&full=1&print=1
 
Jannard said:
We are working really hard to build the system. I don't want to put out a preliminary price for an accessory then change it. We fully understand that it is important for our customers to get an idea of what they are getting themselves into... and we promise to do our best to keep pricing as modest as the camera. But we just need more time to understand our costs.

Thanks for your patience and support. :-)

Jim
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Of course guys, there's always the industry alternative where the company doesn't say anything about their product until weeks before launch. :D

Even with some uncertainties, I like the "honest progress updates" method much better...
 
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