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Dalsa guys: Red seems fishy
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Jason Francois
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Yes, I dance well. Thank you.
......Just trying to lighten it up a bit guys and gals.
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guys play nice.... last warning.
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Samuel, I don't really understand why you personaly got offended? First, Zeke was just ironic (hence the "/humor" warning). It was a joke, not unlike the many ironic jokes one can read against americans over the French forums. Does that mean the people writing those actually believe what they write? Not really: this form of humor is called "irony"... Also, as a Belgian person myself, shall I remind you the thousand jokes you, the French people, say each year against us? Does this mean I'm offended by any of your jokes against Belgian people? Nope! Because I know you don't really believe what you say! Why? Because of that little thing called "humor"...
Furthermore, about my own comments, you know I never had you in mind when I spoke about the lack of enthusiasm seen on "le repaire", since you were rather interested in the Red, am I right or not? Second, all I meant to say was that I was a little bit under the impression there was too much sceptiscism over there. Too much sceptiscism and non constructive arguments/discussions... This, in my humble opinion, seems indeed to be caused by a lack of positive energy, hence my "old" and "living-dead" adjectives. Pazu (one of the few other Redheads on the repaire) basically told the very same thing than I did. On the repaire, he wrote: "En France, on critique! On râle!" which can be translated by "In France, all we do is criticize and whine!". But he never seemed to offend anyone and certainly never got the attention you grant me right now (for what reason, I'm not so sure? BUt it's been months you seem to hold some sort of a grudge against me: can we please settle this down by PM?).
I also said I could be wrong in my judgment, even though many people over here perfectly understood where I was coming from and that these were not to be considered to be insults, but rather some sort of sadness. How comes each and everytime someone gets a new idea and has the drive (and found the ressources) to make it real, it causes so much negative energy from... "bitter souls"? Is that a more politically correct word for you? If not, let me ask you to read the "Hecklers and Fanboys" thread which sticks on top of this forum and you will understand that I am not the only one over here who feels tired of constantly hearing "non constructive kinda criticism against the Red team"... Thoses sort of discussions were boring in the past! Nowadays, they're even more than boring, due to the recent developments...
What puzzles me is the reason YOU got offended here? Did you think I spoke about you! Not at all! And you know it! You were one of the 2 or 3 people (rather the exceptions than the rule, don't you think so?) who were enthusiastic about the Red on the "repaire".
But, then, what puzzles me is why can't you understand my own disapointment about what happened on the "repaire"? By comparision, let me remind you what happened on cinematography.com which is pretty similar, except, AFAIRC, it never really went up to Red Proponents being insulted the way I have been...
Did you ever get insulted for daring to believe and arguing for the reality and the honorability of the Red team Samuel? No! I did!
Did you ever get insulted for daring to say that the "break-in episode was genuine and not a set-up or a cheap marketing trick from the Red company?" No! I did!
Did you get your own PRIVATE messages published (something illegal) in a lame attempt to humiliate you? No! I did! Did I sue the one who did it? Nope!
Was I a vocal advocate of the Red! Yes! That's the only thing you can hold against me... But I never intended to fuel a fire I didn't start in the first place.
ALL I'VE EVER SAID IS THAT I TRUST THE RED TEAM! And that I have a hard time to understand why there is so much bitterness against them! This is not a PRIVATE problem with one person (or a dozen to be correct) on the repaire! This is my own, genuine opinion. And would we be be face-to-face right now, I would tell you exactly the same thing: I TRUST THE RED TEAM AND I AM TIRED OF HECKLERS (or ZOMBIES, as I'd rather call them, if you grant me the right to use a little humor this time) ! Good thing Jim has now created a sticky thread about that very subject!
So, I think all has been said, either here, or on that sticky thread on the top of this forum. Can we move on to some better discussions or to PM if you really want to keep discussing it?
Furthermore, about my own comments, you know I never had you in mind when I spoke about the lack of enthusiasm seen on "le repaire", since you were rather interested in the Red, am I right or not? Second, all I meant to say was that I was a little bit under the impression there was too much sceptiscism over there. Too much sceptiscism and non constructive arguments/discussions... This, in my humble opinion, seems indeed to be caused by a lack of positive energy, hence my "old" and "living-dead" adjectives. Pazu (one of the few other Redheads on the repaire) basically told the very same thing than I did. On the repaire, he wrote: "En France, on critique! On râle!" which can be translated by "In France, all we do is criticize and whine!". But he never seemed to offend anyone and certainly never got the attention you grant me right now (for what reason, I'm not so sure? BUt it's been months you seem to hold some sort of a grudge against me: can we please settle this down by PM?).
I also said I could be wrong in my judgment, even though many people over here perfectly understood where I was coming from and that these were not to be considered to be insults, but rather some sort of sadness. How comes each and everytime someone gets a new idea and has the drive (and found the ressources) to make it real, it causes so much negative energy from... "bitter souls"? Is that a more politically correct word for you? If not, let me ask you to read the "Hecklers and Fanboys" thread which sticks on top of this forum and you will understand that I am not the only one over here who feels tired of constantly hearing "non constructive kinda criticism against the Red team"... Thoses sort of discussions were boring in the past! Nowadays, they're even more than boring, due to the recent developments...
What puzzles me is the reason YOU got offended here? Did you think I spoke about you! Not at all! And you know it! You were one of the 2 or 3 people (rather the exceptions than the rule, don't you think so?) who were enthusiastic about the Red on the "repaire".
But, then, what puzzles me is why can't you understand my own disapointment about what happened on the "repaire"? By comparision, let me remind you what happened on cinematography.com which is pretty similar, except, AFAIRC, it never really went up to Red Proponents being insulted the way I have been...
Did you ever get insulted for daring to believe and arguing for the reality and the honorability of the Red team Samuel? No! I did!
Did you ever get insulted for daring to say that the "break-in episode was genuine and not a set-up or a cheap marketing trick from the Red company?" No! I did!
Did you get your own PRIVATE messages published (something illegal) in a lame attempt to humiliate you? No! I did! Did I sue the one who did it? Nope!
Was I a vocal advocate of the Red! Yes! That's the only thing you can hold against me... But I never intended to fuel a fire I didn't start in the first place.
ALL I'VE EVER SAID IS THAT I TRUST THE RED TEAM! And that I have a hard time to understand why there is so much bitterness against them! This is not a PRIVATE problem with one person (or a dozen to be correct) on the repaire! This is my own, genuine opinion. And would we be be face-to-face right now, I would tell you exactly the same thing: I TRUST THE RED TEAM AND I AM TIRED OF HECKLERS (or ZOMBIES, as I'd rather call them, if you grant me the right to use a little humor this time
) ! Good thing Jim has now created a sticky thread about that very subject! So, I think all has been said, either here, or on that sticky thread on the top of this forum. Can we move on to some better discussions or to PM if you really want to keep discussing it?
Joe Carney
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Arkham, thanks for getting the 'real' meaning of my post. Just trying to show empathy and humor for your bad situation. I'm sure most French people who read it realized that.
For the record, my paternal heritage is French and Irish and I love French Cinema. They are masters of color and light.. So on an upside, I'll leave it at that.
For the record, my paternal heritage is French and Irish and I love French Cinema. They are masters of color and light.. So on an upside, I'll leave it at that.
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Section 1 - Cameras:
1. "Louis and Auguste Lumière (both FRENCH) were pioneer contributors to the birth of film in 1895.
The Lumière camera was a machine for both film projection and development..."
http://holonet.khm.de/visual_alchemy/lumiere-x.html
2. Red One Digital Cinema Camera - a 4k "film-style" digital camera that will revolutionize new movie content creation with its size, affordability and advanced digital 4K workflow in 2007.
"The person behind the camera is Jim Jannard (AMERICAN) of Oakley. Basicaly he got fed up of poor quality cameras and companies that didn't listen. He's also a camera nut.
But he wants feedback, feature request etc. He wants to listen!
Graeme"
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9566&pid=53863&mode=threaded&show=&st=