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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Something Special... ( REDCINE-X )

How about the heaviest DNxHD Codecs?
 
I'd be amazed if there was an option to buy the new Mac Pro racked up with Nvidia cards.

I speculate the number of people upgrading from Dual standard AMD Firepro GPUs to an Nvidia's offering is a very small group. Probably not enough for Nvidia to invest in.

I think AMD perceived as an underdog to Nvidia, have negotiated a deal with Apple to be the sole providers of the GPU (with a very low margin) to accelerate software companies dropping CUDA development - and thereby increase their market penetration for consumer GPUs.

The new Mac Pro may not be the most powerful system on the planet - but value for money it may very well be.

AJ
 
I have been hoping that the greater muscle in the second gen RR-X will not require the rounding, or whatever it is, of the first gen RR thereby allowing us best possible quality right off the card.

Lets hope so...!

The news of GPU acceleration makes me very hopeful for RRX being better than the old RR in every way! If the RRx dosn't offer better quality I would be surprised that RED resources where worth attributing to RRx dev with RT 6k GPU coming..

M
 
just in the nick of time.. My rocket is about to lose its fan, and I'm pretty sure its on its death bed...
Thanks for the sneak peak..im currently putting my new system together and this is great timing

Cant wait for this version to come out

Thanks!!
 
Well, I thought it would be good to know that dnxHD can take up the place of prores444 whenever you need HD stuff.
 
If RCX could write to >8 bit Quicktimes it would allow many attractive options. Writing 12 bit Cineform MOVs vis RCX would be amazing.

In case anybody forgot, Cineform has allowed playing back 4K media on a lowly i7 consumer processor 4 years ago, and without GPU support.
Why is Cineform not a good solution as an intermediate workflow codec, other than only supporting the same data reduction as Redcode ? ( Good for about 5:1 visually loss-less )
 
Correct. No Titan on Mac. The Titan can be made to work on the Mac, but driver support for it is incomplete. I just tried it again this past weekend... IMO, that's a lot of money to spend on a GPU that's only half-assed supported and may never be fully supported. Hacked firmware or not, if the drivers don't provide full support, it isn't going to work to its abilities. I think for right now the best two Mac GPUs are the GTX680 Mac Edition and the Radeon 7950 for Mac. As to which one will perform better in RC-X, that would be a question for RED. If and when they get the Mac version to a point they're ready to talk about it.

Doesn't the GTX 680 cause power issues? And is it really much faster than the GTX 570?
 
Can anyone tell me though as to how it will handle regular 5k footage? non dragon?
 
I'd be amazed if there was an option to buy the new Mac Pro racked up with Nvidia cards.

I speculate the number of people upgrading from Dual standard AMD Firepro GPUs to an Nvidia's offering is a very small group. Probably not enough for Nvidia to invest in.

You do realize that the dual FirePro GPUs is a top tier option, correct? Base configuration will be a single GPU, probably a Radeon 7970 3GB. I wouldn't count NVidia options out of the running just yet. That said, the FirePro GPUs are awesome, every bit as good as the Quadro K5000/ K6000. What they lack is the NVidia CUDA support and that is becoming less of an issue as the industry moves away from proprietary CUDA to OpenCL for computational purposes.


I think AMD perceived as an underdog to Nvidia, have negotiated a deal with Apple to be the sole providers of the GPU (with a very low margin) to accelerate software companies dropping CUDA development - and thereby increase their market penetration for consumer GPUs.

AMD has indeed garnered an underdog reputation over the past few years due to CUDA. However, they have historically been, or at least since the PowerPC G4 days, the primary GPU vendor used by Apple for their computers. PowerVR still remains the sole vendor for all their mobile devices.

The new Mac Pro may not be the most powerful system on the planet - but value for money it may very well be.

There is a good chance of that. I'm expecting Apple to be very aggressive with the pricing on this. They will have to be.


Doesn't the GTX 680 cause power issues? And is it really much faster than the GTX 570?

There are several flavors of GTX680 on the market. The Mac edition of the GTX680 fits nicely within the Mac Pro's power envelope and it is a nicely tuned card that performs very well. It is faster than a GTX570, actually rather similar overall to a GTX580, but it's a small difference over the 570. I actually have a GTX570 in my personal Mac Pro tower. I have yet to see a need to pull it as I'd be spending upwards of $500 to get maybe 5~7% overall increase in GPU performance, which means maybe 1 to 2 % better for overall abilities in Premiere or Resolve. Most of the stock PC versions of the GTX680 technically draw a bit more power than the Mac Pro supplies. However, I haven't heard any reports of people frying their systems. If in doubt, one could always pull the necessary power from the lower optical bay. I would still recommend the Mac Edition of the card. It performs well, better than any flashed EFI 680 I've seen benchmarked, BareFeat's benchmark shows the GTX680 Mac card holding step with a flashed GTX780. And it can be had for less than any decently flashed 680 card, has official support, yadda, yadda...
 
Oh, I just came back to the forums after a hard day's work just to say... AWESOME! AWESOME!! AWESOME!!!

This truly makes me very excited and may even enable me to think about upgrading my EPIC-X to DRAGON! Now that I don't have to get a RED Rocket-X... the thought has taken hold.

Nice, truly nice. Love it.
 
Jeff - am I correct in assuming the addition of the GTX 680 alongside my Radeon 5770 would overtax the power supply on my 6-core Mac Pro 5,1?
 
Jeff - am I correct in assuming the addition of the GTX 680 alongside my Radeon 5770 would overtax the power supply on my 6-core Mac Pro 5,1?

Not only would you need to provide power from somewhere else, but you would lose the use of one PCIe slot. Both the 5770 and GTX680 are double-width cards and both require use of two power connectors. Mixing GPU platforms isn't a great idea either if you're looking at using both for computational or OpenGL work.
 
Looks like there is something in the water... Alot of angry people at the world lately.

I got to tell you jarred, " no good deed goes unpunished " is the most truthful saying I know of. Film world or not....
 
This is an awesome surprise. I just bought an iMac a month ago with the 2GB GeForce GTX680MX. Wonder how it'll handle it? Also, can someone please explain to me a GPU such as that v.s. one that is meant for rendering. On the surface the 680MX seems to have a helluva lot more CUDA cores than say the Quadro card....
 
This is an awesome surprise. I just bought an iMac a month ago with the 2GB GeForce GTX680MX. Wonder how it'll handle it? Also, can someone please explain to me a GPU such as that v.s. one that is meant for rendering. On the surface the 680MX seems to have a helluva lot more CUDA cores than say the Quadro card....

You might need to upgrade it.. you need a "real" graphics card to do this kind of heavy lifting... the 680MX is great, but its still classified as a notebook video card ( or an under-clocked desktop card ) depending how you look at it, and 2GB is not a ton of memory nowadays.
 
If people want heavy lifting they need to go PC, even the new mac pro's when coming out, will be obsolete very fast, it's better to have a powerful station that is upgradable and modular. If you want to edit on a mac, fine, but for real heavy work, compositing, 3D, grading, transcoding etc. a desktop PC with two of the best graphics cards in an SLI bridge will be the best choice, always.
 
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