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Dragon uncaged...

I'm just tired of hearing the RED nay sayers. But I never get tired of embarrassing them when they say something ignorant of RED. I have patience for Dragon footage but it would so much easier to just let the Dragon do the talking in times of these debates.
 
today, on my 26th birthday, i finally preordered a Dragon-M. after shooting a ton of previous work on Epic and Scarlet, i don't know if i can articulate the excitement rushing through my body. thanks so much Jim!
 
Maybe they're busy with the 645? (Kidding)
 
Kyle Dones said:
Maybe they're busy with the 645? (Kidding)
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Don't be kidding! I'm sure they are working on the large format cameras. Hopefully full speed ahead now that the engineers are freed up after finishing Dragon.
 
Maybe they're busy with the 645? (Kidding)
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The 645 is supposed to be the next iteration of the Dragon sensor, and Red is certainly interested in the medium format still photo market. I think it would be safe to say that Red and Imax have also had discussions about that size sensor.
I was watching the Imax "Dream Is Alive" blue ray disc the other day, and the mottling of uneven chemical processing on the negative was very apparent in a couple of scenes. I am so glad we do not have to go swimming in photo chemicals anymore!
 
Randall Weatherington said:
The 645 is supposed to be the next iteration of the Dragon sensor, and Red is certainly interested in the medium format still photo market. I think it would be safe to say that Red and Imax have also had discussions about that size sensor.
I was watching the Imax "Dream Is Alive" blue ray disc the other day, and the mottling of uneven chemical processing on the negative was very apparent in a couple of scenes. I am so glad we do not have to go swimming in photo chemicals anymore!


Oh yes remember the old days.
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Randall Weatherington said:
The 645 is supposed to be the next iteration of the Dragon sensor, and Red is certainly interested in the medium format still photo market. I think it would be safe to say that Red and Imax have also had discussions about that size sensor.
I was watching the Imax "Dream Is Alive" blue ray disc the other day, and the mottling of uneven chemical processing on the negative was very apparent in a couple of scenes. I am so glad we do not have to go swimming in photo chemicals anymore!
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I find it ironic that we are talking about future sensors when Dragon is just about to be released! :-)

In any case - wasn't a full-frame (36mmx24mm) sensor planned as well? Before the 654...
 
Elsie N said:
I almost feel a little guilty because I know there are poor people in third world companies (I mean, countries '-) still shooting on DSLRs.
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Actually, in Jamaica, we're shooting Epic too! ;) And we'll be upgrading the Rasta Dragon as soon as its available ;)
 
Never been one to join cults.

"I'm just tired of hearing the RED nay sayers. But I never get tired of embarrassing them when they say something ignorant of RED. I have patience for Dragon footage..."


It's 7:17pm, and "Dragon footage" still doesn't exist.

I guess I'm a Red "nay sayer" as the MX sensor is substandard in my view (Alexa looks better, as does BMC). I thought it nearly ruined Gatsby, and a few others. Skin tones were crap. When they try pushing it around, it shows its limitations, especially when exposed brightly. The higher end doesn't hold up from my theater seat, and since I paid good money to see these things, my opinion is as valid as anyone else's, be they labeled "nay sayer" or whatever.

But if Red can come up with a decent sensor that looks filmic, I have no problem with Red. Apparently I'm not alone, as everyone here is salivating about this upcoming Dragon sensor. Any guess as to why that is? Couldn't have anything whatsoever to do with the current version. It must be something completely different, like an urge to be "cutting edge" or something. Don't compare to current reality. That would go against dogma.
 
Joe G. said:
Never been one to join cults.

"I'm just tired of hearing the RED nay sayers. But I never get tired of embarrassing them when they say something ignorant of RED. I have patience for Dragon footage..."


It's 7:17pm, and "Dragon footage" still doesn't exist.

I guess I'm a Red "nay sayer" as the MX sensor is substandard in my view (Alexa looks better, as does BMC). I thought it nearly ruined Gatsby, and a few others. Skin tones were crap. When they try pushing it around, it shows its limitations, especially when exposed brightly. The higher end doesn't hold up from my theater seat, and since I paid good money to see these things, my opinion is as valid as anyone else's, be they labeled "nay sayer" or whatever.

But if Red can come up with a decent sensor that looks filmic, I have no problem with Red. Apparently I'm not alone, as everyone here is salivating about this upcoming Dragon sensor. Any guess as to why that is? Couldn't have anything whatsoever to do with the current version. It must be something completely different, like an urge to be "cutting edge" or something. Don't compare to current reality. That would go against dogma.
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While Alexa can be legitimately preferred over Epic, to say BMC looks better is just to lack a good eye. There are no advantages at all to that camera, and many serious shortcomings.
 
Joe G. said:
But if Red can come up with a decent sensor that looks filmic, I have no pro Apparently I'm not alone, as everyone here is salivating about this upcoming Dragon sensor. Any guess as to why that is?.
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probably because I'm getting a new sensor for 9500$. I don't care about looking "filmic" and sorry you felt that it ruined Gatsby. Haven't seen it yet but that's because I'm sure there are other reasons that movie was ruined other than the camera.
 
Joe G. said:
Never been one to join cults.

"I'm just tired of hearing the RED nay sayers. But I never get tired of embarrassing them when they say something ignorant of RED. I have patience for Dragon footage..."


It's 7:17pm, and "Dragon footage" still doesn't exist.

I guess I'm a Red "nay sayer" as the MX sensor is substandard in my view (Alexa looks better, as does BMC). I thought it nearly ruined Gatsby, and a few others. Skin tones were crap. When they try pushing it around, it shows its limitations, especially when exposed brightly. The higher end doesn't hold up from my theater seat, and since I paid good money to see these things, my opinion is as valid as anyone else's, be they labeled "nay sayer" or whatever.

But if Red can come up with a decent sensor that looks filmic, I have no problem with Red. Apparently I'm not alone, as everyone here is salivating about this upcoming Dragon sensor. Any guess as to why that is? Couldn't have anything whatsoever to do with the current version. It must be something completely different, like an urge to be "cutting edge" or something. Don't compare to current reality. That would go against dogma.
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I bet you'd have no idea what camera gatsby was shot on if it wasn't explicitly known beforehand... epic or alexa... also like you'd probably be unable to tell what film stock was used for most of the movies put out in the 90's without explicitly researching it.. unless you're a savant....
 
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