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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

"Only sony can do" a 4K player

Zhang Ming said:
Hisense has 55" 4K for $2K, and you can also get a big bonus package like a microwave and a oven and ...

Chinese LED TV are cheaper and good, even on image quality... LG is the worst.
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Zhang,
how is the contrast ratio? It isn't listed on the specs. Also, for the 3d models, are they passive or shutter glasses?
 
Just heard back from both Hisense and Skyworth. Hisense will not be available in the US until next year and can not be shipped from China.

Skyworth says they can work something out, only problem is they do not have the UL certification required for the USA. If we guarantee this is only for viewing our 4K material and not broadcast tv, then they will put a deal together for us. They said going through the UL process costs quite a large amount which is then passed onto the consumer so currently they are only available in the China market. They are willing to ship us units if it's only for viewing our 4k content. Is anyone still interested? Ill try to get more details and info but wanted to make sure there are still interested people out there? Ill start a new thread to see how many people would be interested in a 4k tv...
 
We spoke to Sony Electronics COO Phil Molyneux about the 4K Ultra HD Video Player that's coming with each purchase of its (MSRP: $24,999.99) [4k screen] beast and why, as he says, it's something "only Sony can do."
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Sony's release of what? The loaner server that comes with each 84 inch 4K panel is preloaded with a minimal amount of content, and which will AS A FACT CONFIRMED only work with the specific panel it is loaned with. That data is loaded through a high density or whatever optical disc that is read and put on the hard drive. it is unprotected i imagine and the studeo side of saony does not want any such disc to be touched by a consumer and has protected the server output so rigorously so that the raw disc data can't be stolen.


The game changer may be the server and distribution system Sony says it has targeted a summer release for. A prototype behind glass was shown of the server at CES. Tthe key will be if Sony forces its HET division to make content available and the HET head could pretty much tell the other half of Sony no. HET makes money, the rest are idiots draining money and running it into the ground. I am not saying that but the guy making the company money may actually have more power over his half than a titular head that like most heads of failing companies these days gets quickly ousted.
 
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The real Sony 4k player is the PS4. I don't know how everyone else feels, but I'm under the impression that way more 4k movies (shot on RED or other) will be played via a $400 PS4 than a $1200 REDray player. And with that, the REDray will become an incredibly niche product, which means when you put your vids up there for purchase, they'll only be accessible to a comparatively smaller user base (unless I'm missing a big chunk of RED's intentions for RRay, which is quite possible).

If Netflix/Youtube/Vimeo/iTunes 4k content (h265 or otherwise) is available to consumers around the same time as REDray, the people you want buying your content (consumers) will be viewing their 4k on another platform/delivery system. That isn't to say that most of the 4k content available won't still be shot on RED, just that it won't be viewed via REDray.

OH, and I'm not counting chickens for either camp (it *could* still go either way - someone could have an ace up their sleeve), I just think a PS4/4k-Netflix-type scenario is more likely.
 
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Shane Daly DP said:
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/ps4-will-output-video-in-4k-but-not-games/
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There is no optical format for 4k and the PS4 only includes a standard Bluray player. There has to be a means of getting 4K content to the PS4 hard drive and none really exists. The hard drive while large seems insufficient for storing much4K movie content and I just don't see the ability to stream in at an acceptable quality. I do suspect the Sony server and distribution system whatever it may be will be a success and Sony has the content now to make HT owners who have invested in a Sony 4K display like me, the 1000ES projector to want it.
Will the Redray player be able to penetrate the market? The 4K market display wise will be small for many years. Something like Odemax will need to reach fruition and be able to serve content that HT users wish to display. That's the big if for me.
 
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I was disappointed to hear the PS4 Bluray drive won't handle 4k disc-based content, but the little I've gathered of h265 makes me think that will be the primary delivery method of 4k for consumers. How impressive will h265 image quality be despite the resolution? When will average bandwidths rise to the challenge? Not a clue :)
 
A little new information about the coming soon Sony player, meaning very soon. The machine will have 2TB of content storage built in side with optional additional storage connected externally through a USB connector. The big news is that it will not stream and that content will be sent to the machine using low data rates meaning long downloads. This was done to allow internet supply of content pretty much no matter how slow and limited some people have.. For example, Sony would slowly send a new title as much as one month before its HT release date so that it would be stored fully on the server by then. There will be a bunch of questions flowing from my post but I really don't know more. I assume one would have to order a piece of content in advance and if it was new content Sony would signal your player to unlock it on the release date. But I do not know. I will be traveling very much fpr the next two weeks and will not be available to participate in this discussion for a few days.
 
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