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Steadicam Group-buyers: Accessories

I can vouch for both the RedRock remote follow focus and the Paralinx Arrow. They are both solid products from good companies. Shooting in LA, I've encountered a couple of "noisy" locations where their ranges were subverted, but these are the exceptions rather than the rule (and I suspect any wireless products would have had similar challenges in those cases). Teradeck, RT Motion, and Bartech all have great reputations as well, I just don't have first-hand experience with them.

Redrock

Like - Build is solid, good torque, smooth motion, quiet motor, cool accessories (finger wheel, microTape), price is right, good communication from company
Don't Like - Single channel system, still haven't delivered iPhone app years after showing it off, occasional signal drops/range loss in noisy RF environments

Paralinx

Like - Small, light, well built, very little lag, full 1080, multi-receiver support, good range, low power consumption, great price, great service from company
Don't Like - HDMI means problems co-existing with the +1 module, but I don't have a +1 so no problem; occasional signal drops/range loss in noisy RF environments
 
I normally don't like Redrock products but I will check out their wireless FF at NAB. Can it handle larger cine lenses too?

Tim Morten said:
I can vouch for both the RedRock remote follow focus and the Paralinx Arrow. They are both solid products from good companies. Shooting in LA, I've encountered a couple of "noisy" locations where their ranges were subverted, but these are the exceptions rather than the rule (and I suspect any wireless products would have had similar challenges in those cases). Teradeck, RT Motion, and Bartech all have great reputations as well, I just don't have first-hand experience with them.

Redrock

Like - Build is solid, good torque, smooth motion, quiet motor, cool accessories (finger wheel, microTape), price is right, good communication from company
Don't Like - Single channel system, still haven't delivered iPhone app years after showing it off, occasional signal drops/range loss in noisy RF environments

Paralinx

Like - Small, light, well built, very little lag, full 1080, multi-receiver support, good range, low power consumption, great price, great service from company
Don't Like - HDMI means problems co-existing with the +1 module, but I don't have a +1 so no problem; occasional signal drops/range loss in noisy RF environments
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Bob Gundu said:
I normally don't like Redrock products but I will check out their wireless FF at NAB. Can it handle larger cine lenses too?
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Last year when I talked to them at NAB they did specify it will drive MOST Cine lenses. This all depends on the stiffness of the focus rings which in some cases can require quite the torque that the RRM motors won't deliver (some older primos). They did advise however, because it is more less an "open" system, that it will interface with other motors that have more torque (heden i think is one they mentioned). Hope this help.

I've been looking at this system for a while and i'm just trying to find an excuse not to pull the trigger on it. (its harder after this proline purchase to resist, lol) I will be asking the RR guys a lot more questions at their booth this year, so if you have anything you would like to know, I would be more than happy to help you ask :)

If you will be there too then I will most likely see you at their booth at some point.
 
Yeah I'll be checking out RTMotion, HocusFocus, RRM. I hope to bump into you at NAB Peter.

Peter Lan said:
Last year when I talked to them at NAB they did specify it will drive MOST Cine lenses. This all depends on the stiffness of the focus rings which in some cases can require quite the torque that the RRM motors won't deliver (some older primos). They did advise however, because it is more less an "open" system, that it will interface with other motors that have more torque (heden i think is one they mentioned). Hope this help.

I've been looking at this system for a while and i'm just trying to find an excuse not to pull the trigger on it. (its harder after this proline purchase to resist, lol) I will be asking the RR guys a lot more questions at their booth this year, so if you have anything you would like to know, I would be more than happy to help you ask :)

If you will be there too then I will most likely see you at their booth at some point.
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What lenses do you use? Schneider will introduce their new FF Xenars at NAB... might someone be interested in a group buy? :smile:

Other than lenses, I'm looking for a nice matte box. I modified my RedRock matte box with ARRI bellows, but it's still not a great piece of equipment. When it was release, it was the only affordable matte box on the market, but now there are many more around 1kUSD that are far better (MOVcam?).

And I'm extremely interested in the Bolt, if it delivers a better range than the Arrow (I need it also for aerial shots). I believe that the Arrow is great, but I had so many problems with HDMI (haven't tried the Arrow, but other HDMI wireless transmitters) that I'm not to keen on using it anymore.
 
Bob Gundu said:
I normally don't like Redrock products but I will check out their wireless FF at NAB. Can it handle larger cine lenses too?
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Presuming that you're thinking of stiffness rather than size (since size really just impact mounting position); I can't say I've used it with any incredibly stiff lenses, but it's worked fine with Zeiss glass. The system is compatible with motors from other manufacturers if you wanted a bigger motor down the road. Due to its single channel limitation, I wouldn't consider it a high end system, but I've found it be solid for the single channel that it provides. If they ever actually ship the iPhone integration with the microTape, that will give it a unique capability not shared by other systems (but right now that continues to be vaporware... hopefully some kind of update at NAB).
 
Chris Poynton said:
Just wondering if people think this sort of "side by side" V-Lock battery hanger might be of use? Enables swapping out of individual batteries, not just "the one on top". haven't seen this arrangement before, personally.

http://pro-x.en.alibaba.com/product/355689762-210599522/V_Mount_plate_for_2_batteries_GP_TS.html
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I've used them on ENG shoots and the great thing about most of them is they allow hot swapping batteries. Not sure if the one in the link will do it, most do. love the way these work.
 
Anyone seen the Convergent Design Odyssey 7.

7.7" OLED with 1280x800 resolution, 8-bit (sounds awefully similar to the SmallHD panel), touchscreen
It adds waveform and RGB parade (compared to AC series)
It also doubles as a recorder for various raw formats (where you can rent licenses on a day-to-day basis)
SDI-I/O and HDMI I/O

For the price of $1290.
 
Yes it's the same panel as the smallHD guys. But for steadicam it's so reflective and not very bright.

Oscar Stegland said:
Anyone seen the Convergent Design Odyssey 7.

7.7" OLED with 1280x800 resolution, 8-bit (sounds awefully similar to the SmallHD panel), touchscreen
It adds waveform and RGB parade (compared to AC series)
It also doubles as a recorder for various raw formats (where you can rent licenses on a day-to-day basis)
SDI-I/O and HDMI I/O

For the price of $1290.
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Bob Gundu said:
Yes it's the same panel as the smallHD guys. But for steadicam it's so reflective and not very bright.
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Yeah I figured it's probably really effective. But I did also notice that SmallHD sell a matte screen protector specifically for the OLED version, anyone know how well this would work out? I would also be very interested in trying to organize a group buy on the SmallHD HighBright but it looks like they sell like hotcakes without even having been released yet so I have a hard time seeing that they'd lower the price significantly.

What are your experiences using sunhoods on steadicam? I've never shot steadicam outside in daylight so I've never really had to worry about it but now that I'm gearing up for my own future and not renting, I want to go the right way. If a $1000 unit with a sunhood does the job, that would suit me fine but if experienced guys say it's impossible I guess one just has to bite the bullet.
 
its not impossible, you can kinda view depending on how bright sunlight you have and direction and everything. But its really annoying and sometimes you miss things that they are in your frame, and your eyes crying trying to see the image, which appears to be more of a shadow rather than an image to view.However sometimes its ok, and mostly for indoors.
anything less than 1000 -1200 nits for me is not useful for daylight , but nothing is impossible..
 
Peter Lan said:
I suggest people have a look at the Lilliput 663/O since it has native 720P resolution. I ordered mine about a week ago. Will post my thoughts on it when I receive it.
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Did you manage to buy this ? I'm thinking of buying either the Lilliput 663 O/P or the smallHD AC7.

Both seem to have the same spec. I'm sure the smallHD probably has higher quality but the Lilliput 663 also has some advantages not found on the smallHD - for example is has color peaking not only on black and white (grayscale) image but also on the color one. smallHD seems to offer this feature only on their newest much more expensive monitors.

Can I custom zoom in on either Lilliput or smallHD ? I know I can zoom in by fixed numbers like 2x zoom and 4x. smallHD has the custom scale function but I don't know what that does. I would like to zoom in so for example I would see only 90% of my picture. The rest of 10% would be cropped out.

Is this possible ?
 
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Iv been playing with the Lilliput 663 for some time since and I can tell you it is worth the ~$300 price tag. I still prefer using the peaking function in BW as opposed to color mode but that is a personal preference.

So far, I have tested this monitor with my 5DIII/C300 and both worked extremely well. The zoom you are referring to is pixel to pixel. It is a fixed amount of zoom which I cannot remember for the life of me how much it actuallyis, but I have on occasion forget to take it off zoom while rolling.

Its a beast as in build quality and weight. I wish they made a less reflective screen like their older models. Its a real pain to use on a hand held setup because of the weight (same weight as a 5DMKIII).
 
I'm currently very interested in:

RT Motion MK3 with 2 motors
Paralinx Tomahawk
Small HD DP7 pro +
 
Sebastian_A said:
Did you manage to buy this ? I'm thinking of buying either the Lilliput 663 O/P or the smallHD AC7.

Both seem to have the same spec. I'm sure the smallHD probably has higher quality but the Lilliput 663 also has some advantages not found on the smallHD - for example is has color peaking not only on black and white (grayscale) image but also on the color one. smallHD seems to offer this feature only on their newest much more expensive monitors.

Can I custom zoom in on either Lilliput or smallHD ? I know I can zoom in by fixed numbers like 2x zoom and 4x. smallHD has the custom scale function but I don't know what that does. I would like to zoom in so for example I would see only 90% of my picture. The rest of 10% would be cropped out.

Is this possible ?
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Is the Lilliput SDI or HDMI
 
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